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[–] Lost_My_Mind 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ok, but....what if we sent them 4,000,000 javelins? And the idea is, they just fire them at absolutely EVERYTHING.

I'm sure they have to conserve ammo right now, but imagine we got them 2 million rockets for the 400,000 javelins. And told them basically "Yeah man, go nuts."

[–] Lag 16 points 5 months ago

I thought long and hard about this and I don't see any downsides.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Are there any numbers on how "efficient" those are? That is, how many destroyed Russian tanks will 4000 of them cause in practice?

[–] Sylvartas 28 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I've heard a Javelin missile is near 100% efficient if it can get a good lock. Wikipedia says "The Pentagon claimed that of the first 112 Javelins fired by the Ukrainians since the start of the war, 100 missiles had hit their target"

[–] Valmond 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

And how many russian tanks are there left?

Do they use javelins on MTBs too?

[–] CheeseNoodle 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Last I heard Ukraine had gotten through an estimated 2/3 of Russias entire tank stock, including tanks that could realistically be repaired. Doesn't account for potential purchases or getting really desperate and sending partially non-functional vehicles into combat.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

~~Used~~ Certified Pre-owned tanks sound like a horrible idea. Must suck to be the tank crew who gets assigned one of them.

[–] ladicius 11 points 5 months ago

It sucks to be ruzzian in general.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

you can use the javelin on anything, it will lock onto a hot exhaust. one was used to take out a low-flying helicopter in occupied Ukraine, they were used regularly to take out vehicle-borne IEDs in Iraq, and those are just pickup trucks with armor welded on. I've been told it won't quite lock onto a person, but in direct fire mode you can use it against infantry

[–] jenny_ball 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

those things are $325k per?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

~~yeah but they got a shelf life of 10 years. we were likely paying to replace them already anyway~~

never mind, this is a brand new production run. looks like they're doing 4,000 new missiles for the existing CLUs. the missiles are about 250k a pop

[–] jenny_ball 2 points 5 months ago

i gotta get me some of this action

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Ooh ooh, now do HARMs