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[–] Ffkhrocks 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So section 230 protects social media platforms regarding content users post.

If they reinstate a user deleted post who owns it?

Hoping this blows up in their faces as it's a really shitty course of action to take.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I also don't think GDPR looks to kindly at this.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

GDPR

The real PowerDeleteSuite is always in the comments.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Legally, they are probably fine. They’ll delete your account and disassociate your comments from it if you ask and that likely has them covered.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

your post is your IP and you own the rights to it and the right to have them deleted.

https://www.dataprotection.ie/en/individuals/know-your-rights/right-erasure-articles-17-19-gdpr

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Someone mentioned invoking GDPR's right to be forgotten. Although comments are not strictly personal information, it could still work. I think I'll try it soon.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

they are your IP that you can rescind permission to publish at any time

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

I think you should definitely try, but I don't think it'll work. According to this stackexchange question they could argue that deleting your comments would break the cohesiveness of the discussion and make the available information incomplete.

Art.17, 3a states that the right to be forgotten is not applicable if processing of the data is required to exercise freedom of information. So I don't think posts or comments are affected by the GDPR as long as they don't contain any information that would identify a user

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So what you're saying is, mass-edit all your comments to contain your full name right before requesting deletion.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

they'll just restore it to whatever it was earlier, I suspect

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

@sensibilidades is probably right that they could just restore the previous state from a backup

In addition to that is a name not necessarily information that would identify you. There are many people out there that share the same name. It would require additional personal information, like address, phone number or something like that

Even if that would help deleting a users Reddit history I wouldn‘t exactly recommend posting putting that information on the internet

[–] JoeKrogan 2 points 1 year ago

Just edit it with a like to a lemmy instance or instances

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

deleting from a database isn't processing. It's literally what right to be gorhotten requires

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

Fuck. I really don't like this.

So many trauma and support subreddits get deeply personal and identifying posts and comments about horrific shit people (me included) lived through and were trying to cope with, which got deleted several hours after posting for privacy reasons.

If this content gets revived by reddit, it puts a lot of vulnerable people in danger as it this type of 'content' is often harvested by users of other platforms who share these stories with huge audiences.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mine are back as well! WOW, talk about being a scummy company.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Would this be a GDPR violation? Serious question as I don't know

[–] LondonPilot 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

My belief is that no, it wouldn't - because the posts don't contain identifiable information about people. I'm not an expert, though, and I'd love for someone to come and correct me if I'm wrong.

Edit: I just saw that @S4nvers gave a more detailed answer than me a bit lower down, essentially agreeing with me but quoting the relevant part of GDPR to explain why.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

gdpr includes your tlright to be forgotten and your ownership of your own IP, including posts, and right to erase your own content.

https://www.dataprotection.ie/en/individuals/know-your-rights/right-erasure-articles-17-19-gdpr

USA has something similar in coppa

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

What's more likely is there was a database syncing issue

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

That is really bad of Reddit.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

This is why I'm not deleting my Reddit account, it's all the "power" we users have over what's going on, they'll have to ban me to stop editing my stuff... and then we'll do the GDPR dance.

[–] Xenxs 8 points 1 year ago

This is a new low.

No matter what side of the argument you're on, posts and comments should not be allowed to be restored without the author's permission. Reddit is only ensuring more people will go away or stay away.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I just deleted Apollo off my phone. I loved Apollo but I kept mindlessly opening it, I just can’t use Reddit anymore. I’m here now. I had a 17 year Reddit badge, but no more.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

RIF user here, and I had to move it off my home screen (replaced with Jerboa for Lemmy) but I still can't bring myself to delete it yet :(

[–] samus12345 5 points 1 year ago

Might as well wait until it dies on July 1st.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is messed up. I just recently deleted my account (used poweredeletesuite first to edit all my comments to a ".") before finding out about the API stuff. With it deleted, if they've restored my posts, I have literally no way to ever delete any of it again. It's not the end of the world for me fortunately (it could be bad for some people that may have revealed things that are too personal or could get them doxxed), but there were definitely things I'd like to have removed permanently.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

This is why I'm not deleting my Reddit account, it's all the "power" we users have over what's going on, they're gonna have to ban me to stop editing my stuff... and then we're gonna do the GDPR dance.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Can confirm this, my comments are magically reappearing as well. I used PowerDeleteSuite and used the edit before delete function.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I sanitized all of my comments before I deleted them. They’re welcome to bring them back. it’s all just a protest message anyway. But for those who didn’t, this is really shitty.

[–] solidgrue 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Unedited messages were restored to my profile. You might want to check yours.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They are going into their database and restoring the original comments. No just un-deleting them. This is exactly why I left my account active.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This will make Reddit worse. Some people will start to edit their comments to make them nonsense. Trust will erode further. Search will slowly become nonfunctional.
From a users perspective, coming across a nonsensical thread (because comments have been edited), is much worse than see deleted comments. Not only does trust disappear people, but people become angry that the comments are outright random/bizarre/lies.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

This is turning into such a shit show. I can see some group deciding to do some form of attack on Reddit, just for shits and giggles.

When the api stops being freely accessed, loads of bots will stop. The only ones using Reddit will be ones they have created, and that will be interesting to see what rubbish they spout. I bet we will see one bot going on the rampage saying 'Spaz is wonderful'.

It will be interesting to see how they deal with GDPR for us EU users.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is the first morning I haven't had any zombie comments pop back up on my account.

Funny thing I noticed was if I tried to edit my comments to "fuck you piss baby spez", it would log me out every few seconds and force me to log back in. But editing with random words worked fine. looks like they have some filtering set up to protect his ego lol.

Edit: I take that back. Now there's a bunch of year old, unedited, comments popped back up in there. Oh well, redact.dev goes brrrrrrr

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Google, ChatGPT, and all those language models are going to have a very hard time with this. People will change their old comments to random nonsense, so search results that use Reddit will become random nonsense.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

That is why you never edit anything in your database, only save a new version of it so you always can have a paper trail back with all the edits. Same with deleting, you just mark it as deleted. This data is worth a lot of money, they'd be stupid if they let the users destroy it.

And yes it's against the GDPR and so on, but which one of us will sue them?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What if, instead of deleting all our comments, we edit them instead?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I was wondering this, leave the info for future people who may need support (like random IT threads), but edit a message in like:

[ Reddit has done X, Y, and Z, and I will no longer be commenting here. Come join the future over at join-lemmy.org. If this shows up in an AI result, know it was used without my knowledge or consent. ]

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Now I'm thankful I've been editing and then deleting them for half a year.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I notice when I Google "[username] reddit" all of my deleted post are still there. It just has my username as "[deleted]" any images are also gone.

I only deleted everything yesterday though so it may just not have caught up?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

New plan, replace all your comments with threats of violence so the moderators delete them.

I'm not there yet but i am re-overwriting all my comments as many have been restored. I will be keeping this script on repeat over writing them over and over and over until the API changes.

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