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[–] return2ozma 66 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Also, during the same interview...

Bernie Sanders on How the Democratic 'Establishment' Took Him Out of the Presidential Race

"That's what happens when you take on the establishments. What happened is we won the first three primaries, and then the establishment got very, very nervous...and they said, 'Hey, it would be a good idea if you dropped out'...So if you're asking me, are we a democracy? In one sense, we are...I use the term oligarchy. An oligarchy is a society where small numbers of very wealthy people control the economic and political life of the country. I think we are moving rapidly in that direction."

Video clip: https://x.com/TheChiefNerd/status/1823818576480153628

[–] MeekerThanBeaker 22 points 6 months ago (1 children)

And Democrat leadership wonders why we got Donald Trump in office to begin with.

[–] GaMEChld 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

DNC leadership is a bunch of morons with no strategic thinking or strategy. Every victory feels despite their efforts.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

They get paid quite a bit even when they lose. Sometimes they even get more money when they lose as it gives the people a boogeyman to fear and start donating more. Until losing isn't a financially viable strategy to them, they won't care too much if they lose so long as they protected the intersts of the rich.

[–] riodoro1 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Ah democracy. Where the elite choose first what the people can choose later.

It’s oligarchy. Say it with me now: O-LI-GAR-CHY. Oligarchy.

[–] Yawweee877h444 18 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Theo makes the comment that it's like "privatized communism", referring to the fact that big money wins elections, and bernie agreed.

This is actually a great clip and great talking point to spread. The right wing voter base is mostly dumb sockpuppets. They hate the word communism and if we could use this method applying the word communism in this fashion then maybe they could get on board with something we desperately need, like making all political donations illegal.

Spread the word lol. Wealthy interests donating money to political campaigns is privatized communism, and needs to be made illegal! Can you imagine?

[–] techt 1 points 6 months ago

something we desperately need, like making all political donations illegal.

I don't know how serious this idea is, but I have questions. Wouldn't making all political donations illegal favor the rich more than the system already does, especially for small local elections? Could people just gift money to a not-yet-candidate prior to starting any campaigning? If yes, then the person with the wealthiest "friends" wins; if no, where do you draw the line chronologically? Is only cash money considered a donation -- are stage appearances fine to "gift" to a political candidate? Can I neutralize a candidate by mailing them cash and reporting them? If no, what is required for them to do with the money?

I think I'd rather just see Citizens United overturned, but I'm very interested in more info on this idea