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I've dabbled with Linux over the years, first with Ubuntu in the early 2010s, then Elementary OS when that dropped, and a few years ago I really enjoyed how customizable the gui was with Xubuntu. I was able to make it look just like WIndows 2000 which was really cool.

Which current distro has the best GUI, in your opinion? I find modern Ubuntu to feel a little basic and cheap. I guess I don't really like modern Gnome. I'm currently using Windows 10 LTSC which is probably the best possible version of Windows, but I'd jump to linux if I could find a distro with a gui that feels at least as polished and feature rich as Windows 10 LTSC.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Distro is irrelevant. DE/WM choice is all that matters as far as GUI goes. Also, if you want a GUI that looks or feels like windows then KDE probably has you covered in that you could probably customise it to mimic windows.

I quite like the Desktop Environment in elementaryOS. I think it's called Pantheon Desktop? It's very polished. Or InstantWM from InstantOS is also interesting and has some nice animations and effects.

Personally, I use simple and minimal Openbox

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Yes, exactly. haha, the distro has nothing to do with the GUI. That's your Desktop Environment. On almost every single popular distro you can get teh same DE's either through official offerings or community versions.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

You can use most desktop environments on most distros.

If a distro has its own GUI and it doesn't exist on other distros, usually that means either it isn't free software or it's not good enough that anyone has bothered to package it for other distros.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

@ADHDefy @bigbox perhaps I should try KDE again, I've been using Gnome for so long now, before that, Xfce. Haven't tried KDE for many years and it didn't seem very polished or have the look and feel but from screenshots, it looks a lot different to back then!

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I couldn't agree more. I think that tying yourself to a specific distribution is a good way to keep yourself in a box. I think the better question here is "What DE do you prefer?" and then choose your distro based on your preferences for desktop environments while keeping other things in mind (i.e. frozen packages or rolling base).

I, like yourself, pretty much require KDE to be functional on my desktop. A great distro for me is one that ships new KDE releases without much delay (or at least, one that's not completely unreasonable) without having to wait for the next LTS release to get all the goodies. This narrows down the choices pretty substantially as there aren't a lot of distros that meet this spec:

  • Arch
  • Tumbleweed
  • Fedora
  • NixOS (debatable on the keeping KDE up-to-date iirc)
  • KDE Neon
  • Ubuntu with PPAs (least favourite way to stay up to date though)

I prefer to have a rolling (or close to rolling base) so that really only leaves me with the top 3 options.

I'm not really here to shill for KDE, but just encourage folks to find the DE that feels most comfortable to them and then work on your requirements from there.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Linux Mint with Cinnamon ... but I am old. 😁

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I also enjoy Mint. Simple and easy to use. I wouldn't consider myself old, so I think you shouldn't either!

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Same, tho I don't think I qualify as "old" quite yet

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Linux Mint Cinnamon. Stable, yet tons of customizations possible and makes the jump from Windows a whole lot easier (I jumped 1.5 years ago and will never look back).

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

+1 for Linux Mint Cinnamon. It just works

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The real question is what Window Manager has the best GUI... you can run any window manager on any distro - it just takes a little work.

If you're talking about out-of-the-box without any user customization, I'll make a couple suggestions that I think work for new Linux users - not that I'm saying you're green, but most power users know they can fully design the OS from the ground up if needed.

PopOS - In between - GNOME-like with some PopOS customizations under the hood.

ElementaryOS - MacOS-like WM thats clean fresh and easy to understand

Mint - Cinnamon DM, Windows-like with some customization possible

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Distro? Probably Debian, because it has all the desktop environments. If you want, you can have Plasma, Gnome, Xfce, Cinnamon, and MATE all installed at the same time and switch between them at will. Most distros seem focused on one specific DE, which if I'm not mistaken means switching to another involves reinstalling the whole operating system.

The big downside of Debian is that the software in it tends to be very out of date. You'll get security updates and the occasional bug fix between Debian releases, but that's about all you'll get.

You can get a rolling-release experience by running the “unstable” version, but as the name implies, upgrades will sometimes fail or break something, and you need to know your way around the system in order to recover from that. Not a problem if you want to learn to be a Linux sysadmin anyway, but if you want your system to Just Work™, then unstable Debian is unfortunately not for you. It's a trade-off, as with most things in life.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Don't most distros have access all desktop environments? I'm assuming OP is asking about the default DE.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I don't see why distros should be married to a specific GUIs. Any distro can support any number of GUIs. It just seems like a huge waste of effort to make a distro just to support one GUI.

I would encourage people who want to implement their unique vision for a GUI to make their effort easily packagable by any distro and to work with an existing community distro to make their work available widely.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can change the DE (desktop environment) as you like but I really like Budgie from Solus. My daily driver is Plasma and find myself on openSUSE Tumbleweed. It's by far the most crash-free and freeze-free experience I've had while using Plasma. Note: Installing Nvidia Drivers is at your own risk, though.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

i3, and swaywm , I have used almost ... All Linux/BSD/Windows/Osx/Unix Desktop Environments. I really like #enlightenment but it can be pretty buggy especially on wayland.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Imo, I really like linux mint's cinnamon, its so clean and pretty.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Feodora and Debian have a GNOME experience that has not been ruined to make less innovative in favor of making the UX more similar (and therefore familiar) to that of the worst desktop operating system available (windows).

If you've seen but never really used GNOME in a daily workflow it looks and feels alien. Thats becausethey devs are trying to make something that is friendly to the people who actually use it and intuitive to the people who are new to desktop computing, and they are making no attemt to appease thoes who believe that it is impossible to do better than Microsoft has with Windows.

If you've never really used it (and have used ms windows), Vanilla GNOME is alien to you. If you have really used it, nothing else is yet on its level.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm using Fedora with GNOME now and enjoying it. If you want a more Windows-like experience, go with Fedora KDE spin.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I use Garuda dragonized with kde plasma as my set up, works for me!

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This is subjective. For me, anything with Mate as desktop environment. Currently using Ubuntu with it.

I'm a conservative user. I don't really care about whistles and bells, nor appeal to novelty. I want something that works and that I'm used to.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is mate being ported to Wayland? I will die on the hill that gnome 2 was peak gnome.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Any distro where I can easily replace the default with sway.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Sway is awesome! Recently started using it, and being able to customize literally everything with simple CSS gives you so much control. Though it is a bit of a double edged sword, as if I don't catch myself I'll never stop tuning it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I love the versatility of KDE and you can make it look amazing but at the end of the day I always end up with a Gnome-based distro for some reason. The simplicity is just so beautiful. Fedora has been my distro of choice for a few years and I don't see that changing any time soon...it just works! With gaming via Steam/Proton I don't see myself ever returning to Windows.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I like to use good ol' stable Debian with i3-gaps as a window manager.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I just switched to Fedora 38 with KDE and it's been great! It's using Wayland now too, so it's been really smooth and stable. My last distro was Manjaro with KDE, but I started having issues with the lastet round of updates and wanted to switch to something more stable. I really don't like gnome as it feels to "basic". Sure it looks nice, but for me it feels like it's missing some important features that are just there with the default KDE layout.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm using GNOME on Fedora rn and it's bussin

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

i really like gnome, especially with extensions like dash to dock, transparent top bar, etc. really nice, simple, and clean ui imo.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Gnome with pop's cosmic extensions is great. Excited to try their rust based replacement once it's ready

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Yup, I tend to recommend fedora to my newbie friends because Gnome is simple to switch to and works really well.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Desktop environments are a pretty subjective topic. You probably gonna like KDE plasma or cinnamon..if it's just about looks and feel you're good to go..just find a distro with one of them and test it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It thoroughly depends on how much you're willing to configure

I think right now EWW + hyprland is the new hotness, if you're willing to edit text files and scripts

If not, go KDE if you like windows, gnome if you like mac.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Distro doesn't really matter nowadays. You can get all desktop environments to work on most distros. Especially the big players like KDE, Gnome, Xfce have hundred distros they are shipped with by default. Most big distros have versions for each of the most popular desktop environments. Therefore, I would suggest that you look for the distro which fits your needs best and then install the desktop environment you want to work with afterwards, if there isn't a flavor of your distro that ships with it already.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Ubuntu Budgie

  • I like the aesthetics
  • I'm just to used to windows start menu/taskbar.
  • decently sized community and support

Note: a lot of people seem to use the Mac inspired app dock and that seems to be the default. It's customizable though so you can get a taskbar if you prefer that.

I think the whole point of Budgie is to make the interface a little more welcoming if you are coming from Windows or Mac.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I like GNOME a lot (currently using Fedora GNOME with a bunch of extensions), but I'm eagerly awaiting the release of System76's COSMIC since it seems like it's basically GNOME with all the customisations I end up making anyway, and will be far more modular and customisable.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The distro which comes with the best customization in my opinion is Pop!_OS. Simple, clean, straightforward and comes with the POP SHELL which basically simulates a tiling window manager

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I used the Pop Os default for a long time and just recently switched to i3 Manjaro, it’s been pretty nice once you get past the learning curve of i3

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I'm pretty sure I'm legally required to post this anytime someone says they use Manjaro.

Manjaro was the first thing to get me to stop distro-hopping, so it pains me to admit that historically, it's been a very messy project. I've since moved onto openSUSE Tumbleweed and love it (I've also dabbled in NixOS, but it's a lot more hardcore).

If anyone wants the ease of Manjaro, with an Arch base, my understanding is that you should consider EndeavourOS.

Also, if you like i3 but want to use Wayland for any of its superior features, consider SwayWM.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

GNOME with Dash to Panel is my favorite GUI, but I've been warming up to KDE since their Wayland VRR implementation is complete and working while GNOME keeps waffling over something as stupid as "omg what if we have to show a VRR toggle in the settings??? our users will be CONFUSED!!!!". While GNOME is very smooth and functional with extensions, this stupid limited mindset of the core developers prevents it from being a good choice for gaming. Mutter-VRR fixes it and actually works very well, but they keep breaking it with updates.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

@bigbox with ZorinOS you won't feel the difference when coming from spydows. As soon as I made the switch to Linux I tested over 15 distros and I ended up with ZorinOS Core.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I recently started using KDE with i3 as the window manager - I've long been looking for a full-fleged DE with good window tiling, and KDE + i3 does that so well and is so easy to set up it's like they were made to work together. So I just use Kubuntu and add i3 on top of that, easy peazy

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Fedora with Gnome

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I'm going to hop in here and suggest you try out Linux Mint. This is a distro designed for people who are coming over from Windows or Mac. It "just works". The UI doesn't throw away thrity years of convention simply to be "linux". Everything is exactly where you expect it to be and most of what you need is already installed.
Mint offers a choice of different desktop environments which are all laid out exactly the same, but have differing degrees of polish. If you're using a very old PC, you may want to choose XFCE because it is very lean, but lacks some of the nice graphical touches. Most people just use the Cinnamon desktop environment, which is highly customizable and polished.
I fully switched to Mint many years ago and never looked back.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Good old Debian stable with JWM, IceWM or Trinity Desktop for me. Its very efficient, clean and gets out of the users way. Will probably move to LabWC on Wayland when its ready.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Absolutely love GNOME on Fedora. Workstations + Hotkeys are amazing. I really dig the minimalism and compartmentalisation it offers.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

You might be looking for a KDE desktop. Many of Windows's better more modern desktop features are copied from it, and KDE is very customizable out of the box without needing to install a bunch of extensions like you do with Gnome. KDE can be customized to fit many different desktop paradigms, with the default being like Windows 10.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I've been enjoying Gnome using [email protected]. It's not perfect, but good enough. The preinstalled tiling extension also makes using a full DE bearable without spending hours customizing a WM.

I'm looking forward to trying out Cosmic, which I have high hopes for.

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