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[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago (2 children)

In suggest we replace all trams to be Hop-On and all elevator replaced with paternoster elevator.

[–] TheYojimbo 14 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Yeah fuck the handicapped I guess

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

The driver / conductor could presumably stop it if needed

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Collateral damage

[–] NarrativeBear 5 points 4 months ago

Paternoster elevator, the hop-on elevator, just dont trip!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rvvbn7O1nus

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Fun, but not good for general use. Yes, I hung off the side a bit when I rode the one in SF. Very fun, but a modern low deck, level entry team works for more people.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Wow I wish Clem Jones hadn't come along and ruined our tram network. Apparently Brisbane would today have the 3rd largest tram network in the world if we'd kept it going at its peak: no additional new track laid. Instead he ripped it up and we have not one metre left, except when you occasionally see bits of it buried when they do road works...like when they expanded Gympie Rd from 6 to 8 lanes over the last year or so. Sigh.

As for hop-on trams, obviously not very accessible. If they had the ability to stop and put down a ramp for people who need it, it could be manageable, but realistically if we'd kept the track, they'd have needed to lower the floor of the trams and raise up the platforms to make for level (or at least near-level) boarding.

[–] aeronmelon 2 points 4 months ago

Walt Disney tried and failed to make People Movers a thing. That was the safest implementation of this idea.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Oh, this could also be a shitty design for a food ~~truck~~ tram - you order & then have to walk along it while waiting for your food :D

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Snacks only for those in decent physical condition

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

in decent physical condition

Both a requirement and a result :D

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Not the most accessible. Really cool in theory, or on a tourist service though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think they might still have their place, like only a few doing the most busy routes (and free or at least no manual ticketing to further ease the ease of use).

Like within old city centres, imagine as you are walking & one of these bad boys comes by, you just grab it ride for even just a smol distance & hop off in a convenient location & closer to your destination.

Such design doesn't have fixed stops, or rather the whole route is.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They'd be nice to hang onto with a bicycle or something

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yes!

Like bike escalators but you know, not just for hills :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I like the idea, but I think I'd find them too slow and I'd just ride up there. Handy for old people tho!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Definitely cool! However, people who have problems with their walking apparatus would lose out. All in all, not 100% based.