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[–] MrFlamey 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Uhm, so what extra value to subscribers did they add recently? Is it just a case of Google's costs going up or simply their need to make more profit to delight shareholders?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Is it just a case of Google’s costs going up or simply their need to make more profit to delight shareholders?

Yes. Everyone else is raising their prices due to "increased costs", even if they don't actually have any increased costs, because it's a "get out of jail free" card for raising your costs at the moment. Everyone is doing it, so you're less likely to get negative media coverage if you do it as well.

[–] BromSwolligans 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Sucks for me. I use iOS (I'm sorry) and that's the original reason I got YouTube Red (back then): they make iOS users pay for background playback. Most of my YT consumption is documentary / essay / spoken word stuff so I need that feature to treat it like a podcast player, basically. Most of the rest of my YT consumption is in my living room, where ad blocking isn't an option (and I hear even if it was, they're catching up fighting ad blockers).

I hate the Web 2.0 "enshitification" of platforms, and I hate advertisements, and I'm willing to pay for a good, useful service. But this is a mixed bag. It's still 'enshitified' because most of what it serves me is algorithmic and nothing to do with the hundreds of channels I've subscribed to over the 13 years I've had this particular account. It's still chock full of ads because videos do sponsor blocks these days.

And the worst of it is they've got you by the balls and there's really nothing stopping them from being Netflix and just continuing to raise and raise the price. I was an OG Netflix Instant Streaming for Xbox 360 user...years later when they finally booted me off my own family plan, we were paying like...$23 a month? For what had at that point become the worst video service? What stops YouTube from bumping up to $19.99/mo a couple years from now? It's the only game in town.

OH and they're also selling all your metrics. That's the other thing. If I'm paying (through the nose) for a service, it shouldn't be double-fucking me by selling predictive measures of who I am and what I care about to filthy fucking "advertisers" (for-profit behavior manipulators).

YouTube (like every last piece of Web 2.0) was fun while it lasted. But it is now barely better than worthless.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Wait, what the FUCK!?!

This price increase is live for new subscribers as seen on youtube.com/premium. Instead of $11.99, YouTube Premium now costs $13.99/month. Meanwhile, it’s $18.99 if you’re subscribing from the iOS YouTube app.

I’ve been paying $4/month over market rate this whole time?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

These services think people get their money from trees. Also seriously who even pays for YouTube Premium? There are both adblockers and website download tools, both of which are completely free.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Oh well, too late to join now. Thought about that subscription in the past, but now it’s clearly out of the question.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

I'm still not going to subscribe, weren't they worried about the amount of subscribers the other week!?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

I cannot imagine paying anything for YT Premium, let alone $14 lol.

[–] Thewheeeeeeeeeel 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why? It gives the creators more money than watching ads and you get no ads on Smart TVs etc.

I mean yes you can watch youtube with vanced, Sponsorblock etc pretty much without ads everywhere, but because I hate ads and did that I like supporting the channels without having to manage a ton of little donations

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[–] jeanofthedead 10 points 1 year ago

So... another 50 cents if purchased through India?

[–] CriticalMiss 9 points 1 year ago

Oh no. Anyway.

[–] Rakonat 9 points 1 year ago

Wow, they really didn't have much reason for me to want to use it before. I dropped Amazon Prime because it was getting too expensive and I was at least using that regularly!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I pay ~$6.50 a month for a family plan following the guidance on cheapies.nz to sign up with a VPN and pay in Ukrainian currency (had trouble with turkish) - because google screwed me over when I was paying $19.99 a month on the grandfathered plan. if that ever stops working ill just cancel the lot and go back to sailing the high seas.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Just stated using Revanced Extended YouTube. One of the best apps there is. Makes everything so much more convenient and with zero cost.

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[–] TheChancePants 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Anybody on this thread on iOS, check out Vinegar. It’s a Safari extension for YouTube that converts the YT media player to a generic iOS one, removing ads and allowing PiP and other stuff. Best 2-ish bucks I’ve ever spent.

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[–] gon 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've pre-emptively raised my ReVanced usage to 100% so IDRC.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh I thought about subscribing for a couple of months, then again I have cancelled Netflix because money is tight. Now I have another reason not to subscribe to YT Premium.

Thanks, Google!

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[–] andyster 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel like this is the best money in streaming. I mostly watch you tube, and primarily on the tv and phone in the app. Frankly I would prefer to have much more of the internet paid for with you know money instead of ads and not use a blocker.

You tube music also has a much better algorithmic playlist than Apple Music.

[–] zefiax 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I agree completely but you won't get much support on this site as people don't think about how things can cost money to run.

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