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I got a lot of my headlines from reddit. Due to the impending death of my favorite app (Sync for Reddit) however, that's coming to an end.

I'm now realising my Reddit experience had deteriorated slowly, just doomscrolling the hours away wasn't healthy and I'm even kind of glad this is a good reason to end it. However, reddit has been really useful for news, especially the comments (taken with the right amount of skepticism) could be very informative.

I hope Lemmy builds something similar, but the defederation of beehaw's news has been a setback.

What would be a good alternative, going forward, for getting news and backgrounds from varied, trustworthy en unbiased sources?

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[–] Cha0zz 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe not directly an answer to your question but I don’t believe Reddit was a trustworthy and unbiased news source. Hell it wasn’t even that varied imo with news mainly being about what’s happening in the US with a focus on politics. Tbh I really don’t know what a good news source would be that thicks all your boxes.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah but the truth of the matter usually came out in the comments

[–] Cha0zz 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure I agree with that. The problem is that the comments also often include statements without sources, plain out wrong information, etc. Much of which can also be highly upvoted. So even with the context of the comments finding unbiased good news requires you to be very sceptic and isn’t always straightforward. Additionally each subreddit has its own target audience which will also inherently result in some bias in both the news that is posted as the comments on said news. But tbh a perfectly unbiased news source probably does not exist as we are all human.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You're right you gotta bring your bucket of salt for all them pinches, but it was often the case that if someone posted a bullshit answer there'd be a repudiation to it; if that one was bollocks? Someone else chimed in. Eventually you have enough to aggregate some semblance of the truth.

The pitfall is relying on votes to do the vetting for you, and reluctance to research under your own power in lieu of citations. Cumbersome work, but if you really want the real picture it's never 100% painless.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (16 children)
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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've started using newsminimalist.com It's one of the most useful LLM based services I've seen. It's an aggregator that uses ChatGPT to identify the significance of stories and group the articles on different sites about that story together and then summarise them.

I don't want to spend hours every day reading news, but I do want to keep up to date with major events and it's been good for that.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I use an app called Artifact that aggregates news from many sources into a FYP and categories. There’s even comments for each article.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I'm going to try it

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I've been using Artifact lately as well and it's been pretty good. You can tell it things you're interested in and it'll show you articles from different sites. It's been great.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Check out ground news. It is a news aggregator, but with a twist: it aggregates all articles on the same event from various sites so you can see how the event is portrayed by different sites.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

ground.news is great.

There's also allsides.com, which has a similar idea.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I was just going to link that! Two articles on the topic:

https://www.thefactual.com/blog/what-are-the-best-nonpartisan-news-sources/

https://www.makeuseof.com/top-unbiased-news-sources/

I tried my hand at creating a magazine https://kbin.social/m/neutralnews

Haven't done a lot with it, though. But it was in response to the same dilemma as OP

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Damn thats a good call. What a great site.

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[–] tallwookie 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

no source is truly unbiased, but I am also curious about where to find news/worldnews - there's a few non-beehaw options but they're not updated that often.

for tech stuff I always default to arstech, cnet, and slashdot, but I honestly dont feel like navigating between all of the various disparate news websites on a daily basis - or even a weekly basis to be honest.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I honestly dont feel like navigating between all of the various disparate news websites on a daily basis - or even a weekly basis to be honest.

This is a perfect use case for a feed reader.

[–] tallwookie 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

any suggestions on a good feed reader?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I like FeedMe (Android). Syncs to my Feedly account so I can also look at the web on my desktop

[–] Lauchs 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

For years I've heard feed readers were better than reddit, I suppose now is the time to test!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

To be honest, I've tried a couple of times, but I miss reading comments. Some sites of course have comments but it's not the same.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Honestly they are quite different, there are pros and cons. A feed reader shows purely what you are subscribed to, and there is no algorithm that rates which links you should see first. You have to curate your own feeds.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

@tallwookie @Trusting I quite like NetNewsWire with Inoreader as a sync backend

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

My personal favorites: Inoreader for the cloud, Miniflux for self-hosting.

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[–] nivenkos 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I think it's best to never read the news, you'll find about stuff that actually affects you naturally anyway.

Focus on communities for your hobbies and career instead.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I like to keep up to date enough on the things my government chooses to do so that I can make an informed choice the next time I vote.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I’d argue that one should not stop reading the news forever because you’ll just become increasingly disconnected from what happens around you. As with all things, reading news in moderation and not doomscrolling is the way I think.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah agreed. I think limiting it - great, yes, 100% do that. I tend to look through important news things on Sundays (usually via scrolling through a few sites - SBS, BBC, Al Jazeera, and then doing a bit more research about topics that interest me), and then not really engaging outside of then.

I'm not into ignoring the news and figuring that important things will naturally come through to me, both because there are important things that happen which won't necessarily come up in regular conversation, and also because people - no matter how much I trust them - are going to give their own spin on things. So you both risk missing out on important news, and gaining important news through a skewed lens.

(I don't mean to imply that the media doesn't skew the lens of news, which is why I visit a few different sites.)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Absolutely agree with your approach. Also not being aware about news at all might make those in power get away with passing nocive legislation without much resistance from the population.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I very actively followed news and politics a couple of years ago, and had been doing that for a long time. One day I just got completely fed up, and stopped. And holy shit, I've been so much happier and harmonious since then. Strongly recommend, 5/7

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I just discovered https://newsnotfound.com/ and I quite like it! Well worth checking out. :)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I like brutalist.report.

It shows the headlines of many news sites in a clean way: just text links. It also has filters for tech, science, politics, etc.

Edit:typo

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Very interested in others folks answers. Honestly, I follow a lot of people on Mastodon who share news. I also follow hashtags for my local area (and here on threadiverse, subscribed to communities focused on my local area). This seems to work okay but isn't quite the firehouse I'm used to.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Reuters and the Associated Press are probably the most neutral and trustworthy news agencies.

Edit: My bad, they aren't news aggregators, I still highly recommend them, though.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Just subscribe to RSS feeds from your new sites.

I use InnoReader, which I prefer to Feedly. Syncs Free plan allows you up to 150 feeds and shows ads (which you can easily get around).

[–] pandarisu 4 points 1 year ago

I'm currently using Feedly. I subscribe to news outlets that I trust, and just read what I'm interested in there

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Thanks for suggestion Inoreader! I've just had a look and it looks great, in particular with their pre-made collections.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

The context I got from reddit comment threads was invaluable. I hope to find something similar in the federated wilderness.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

go to ground.news, they have news from both sides of the spectrum and label them as such and it's kind of like a reddit for news?? world news specifically tho

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

While i like the idea on principle, I think they have a lot of bothsideism on their site. Dividing everything into "left" or "right" is not a really valid approach.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use feeder on android and have an RSS feed with news sources. You have to find them first and then see of they have and RSS feed.

Also you can make an RSS feed from mastodon if they toot their stories or use nitter to transform their twitter to a feed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have seen mentioned Feeder a lot as of lately, I have been using Feedly since all the Google RSS BS (heh, sounds familiar doesn't it?) And never looked for everything else (then came Reddit, then Lemmy lol) I never got rid of Feedly though, I tried othes like Flipboard but that one never catched my eye.

What would Feeder provide me that Feedly does not?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I use FeedMe and connect to Feedly. That way I can add unlimited categories, Feedly only allows 3 on the free plan. Works like a charm.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Anything wrong with going to a news site directly? I find https://www.theguardian.com/au and https://www.abc.net.au/ work well for keeping on top of news but your country would surely have equivalents.

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