Definitely remove them until they can federate properly.
this post was submitted on 16 Jun 2023
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It's not just beehaw. Here you can see a list of instances with how many they have defederated (3rd column from right, 'BI'). A few others have more than 380 defederations, too.
Also, isn't that just what the de/federation system does? Instances can decide on their own, we don't have to agree as a whole. Who owns 'lemmy proper' to make the call which instances are displayed on join-lemmy.org or removed from it?
But what definitely should be removed is this line:
You can access all content in the lemmyverse from any server/instance.
That's simply not true, and creates false expectations. Either change that line or only show instances with 0 defederations.
While I agree with you, beehaw is the only big community blocking so many instances. The other 2 are just a handful of subscribers
I think you hit the key with removing the sentence, it's just that beehaw made it very obvious at a time it got a ton of attention.
If beehaw wants a smaller very strictly moderated community it shouldn't be offered as a point of access to the rest of the fediverse, specially now that a bunch of new people don't know much about lemming and may feel deceived
I don't agree because Beehaw is still a server that people can join and should therefore be inluded. New people may not understand immediately about the federation. That's okay. They can always choose to stay on Beehaw or create a different account elsewhere.
why? I understood it was just a temporary thing, not permanent.
Everyone is going through some growing pains right now, why not be gracious and let things progress as they need to? Or do you know something I don't?
I was not implying to permanently remove them. I did indeed mean to remove them while they're defederated. They said they can't handle the influx of users with only 4 admins.
Obviously they would be readded when they refederated.
Do you know when they plan to refederate?
I do not, unfortunately
If the defederation is open ended, it seems pretty reasonable to delist them until it's sorted. They've cut themselves off from more than 30% of the active Lemmy userbase, and are at the center of what's about to become a monumental storm of confusion around asymmetrical federation. There's no need to subject more people to that than is necessary.
why?
To spare the users of the 2 affected instances the crappy UX of asymmetric federation.