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I've seen a lot of people who quite dislike Manjaro, and I'm not really sure why. I'm myself am not a Manjaro user, but I did use it for quite a while and enjoyed my experienced, as it felt almost ready out of the box. I'm not here to judge, just wanted to hear the opinion of the community on the matter. Thanks!

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

i used manjaro for a while but endeavour felt a lot more stable when i switched, im on nobara now though

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I liked it when I used it but that was 5 years ago and there was still dev drama even back then. Contributors said they didn't feel valued iirc.

[–] guyman 1 points 1 year ago

I love it. Been daily driving for about 3 years and haven't looked back. I call it the 'Windows' of Linux distros because of its relentless focus on practical usability.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This site gives some reasons: https://manjarno.snorlax.sh/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Personally I use it when I need to spin up a medium to long term virtual machine.

It's fast to set up, it's fresher than a debian based one and you can easily "get dirty" with off the beaten path choices, if you want. Having easy access to the AUR is really a great plus too.

I would never use it as my main distro or as a real OS on the HDD, tho. For that it's just better to use Arch directly, and with the "new" installer it's relatively fast and painless too.

I feel it has its place as a middle ground for someone that wants to learn more about using linux, but who is not really ready to leave the comfort of having an opinionated preassembled experience.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Vulcan formerly used Manjaro from 2013 to 2017.

Back then, the community was much better and the distro was perfectly alright for everyone who wants Arch-based distro but without the complexity of setting up Arch.

In 2017, Vulcan moved to mainline Arch, not due to the community but because of personal desire to try and learn Arch the Arch way. Antergos and now EndeavourOS have less development drama, so Vulcan now recommends it instead of Manjaro.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I've used manjaro for a while and I liked it. But I wanted a more custom setup so I switched to Arch after being on the testing branch for a while.

Manjaro has some nice gui tools e.g. to make installing kernels easier.

There was some drama about Manjaro repeatedly letting there websites certificates expire which shouldn't happen more than once. And they shipped features for M1 macs that weren't anywhere ready without talking with Asahi developers. But Manjaro is a solid distro. A friend uses Manjaro for years without major problems.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Tough position for me on this. Manjaro is so far, the only distro that works 100% out of the box with my weird sorta-niche Thinkpad model.

I've tried 10+ other distros and they all have had various issues on that laptop except Manjaro, idk why.

I don't use it anymore simply because of all the problems the Manjaro team has had over the last several years. Other posters here have gone into much more detail on it.

Makes me sad though because I really liked my experience with it. Had it on the laptop for over 3 years and it was pretty much flawless that whole time. Every other distro I try has acted janky in some way or another.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Been testing it for a week now. The installation was straightforward and I like the UI in Settings for changing kernels, mhwd is an easy tool for gfx drivers, etc. I install stuff either with pacman or flatpak and it's a very good experience. I do miss the integration with btrfs/snapshots from SuSE Tumbleweed though. One downside with TW was it couldn't display Twitch videos until I reinstalled some media libs from another repository, that stuff worked out of the box with Manjaro. But that's minor.

I'll probably go back to SuSE TW some day, but it'll be a while as I won't bother reinstalling for now. Everything works well, it's a good and slick distrib.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I used it for about one year on my media pc (bedroom tv computer for web browsing and watching videos)

Only problem I had was my gnome theme got messed up after an update. Using the reset to defaults in tweaks fixed it.

The shipped software for switching Kernels was nice. Never did notice any change in stability going from LTS to latest though.

[–] the16bitgamer 1 points 1 year ago

I have a love/hate relationship with Manjaro which boils down to its packages.

I love how pretty much everything is configurable in a GUI. Need to install an older kernel, there's a GUI for it. Need to enable Flatpak or AUR in your package manager, its a toggle switch.

What I don't like is the delayed packages since it messes with AUR. On my machine the Intel Compute Run time keep conflicting with its own dependency. I tried to fix it by installing from AUR, but that didn't fix everything.

Then as I was trying for fix it again I accidentally uninstalled something from the desktop dependency and I couldn't log back into the desktop environment. Thankfully unlike in Windows I was able to get a terminal up and backup my files.

Manjaro lasted 1 year on my machine and was very good. Especially for games. But for my needa I needed something more stable, and a lot more idiot proof (bare minimum separate the games from the os packages).

Moved to Fedora and been loving it. Sure it took I think a month for my DX12 games to work again in Proton, but I can't uninstall OS packages from Discover or Software.

[–] reallychris 1 points 1 year ago

manjaro was my way in to arch. i used the fully configured xfce version, then several versions of the minimal install until i got something i liked, and didn't break after a couple of weeks.

if you were to ask me for a recommendation on an arch based distro i'd say endeavour, but manjaro is perfectly fine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I've been almost exclusively using that distro for a near decade and it's not bad on its own in my experience. Pamac is the best graphical package manager experience I've had as a user. Official, AUR and Flatpak packages all in one place. Manjaro's graphical kernel manager is also nice to have and saved my ass a couple times on my HP laptops that had less than desirable support. I'm definitely looking to move to something else, but it's always ended up being more of a hassle than it was worth. I'm moving in a couple weeks, so I'll use that as an excuse to try switching to EndeavourOS. 🤷‍♀️ But I personally have no bone to pick with Manjaro.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I ran it in a virtual once and liked it well enough.

The main difference I can see between Arch and Manjaro so far is I can install Manjaro and get a bootable system. :-) So far Arch has defeated me. My most recent attempt was with archlinux-2022.12.01-x86_64.iso (twice). The image sits in my temp dir mocking me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

In my opinion, people should just use Arch with the archinstall script if they need help or EndeavourOS for an easy GUI installer.

[–] ZachAR3 1 points 1 year ago

Irresponsible devs, delayed packages for no reason causing massive issues with ours and quite often invalid site certificates due to neglect. It's just arch but worse since it uses their repo which delays packages for practically no reason causing aur incompatibilities. Endeavour is a far better distro for beginners (or arch install script) with the exception of it not having pamac preinstalled.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I doesn't deserve the hate it gets, it's not that big of a project but it's being treated like it pushed kids to kill themselves, the devs fucked up a few times and made some questionable decision (freeoffice...) but they put upe a nice working distro and aren't completely insane like the gnome/ubuntu devs

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I haven’t used vanilla Manjaro, but I use MABOX Linux. which is a Manjaro+open box distro & it is fantastic.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It's still too arch-y for me. I ran it for a while and got pretty common breaking updates. No I will not read and understand changelogs on the forum every week.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I installed Manjaro sometime during 2018, and I have been using it without any major issues. The only issue I had is when AUR packages fail to update. I find that most of the time the issue will resolve itself eventually anyway. Overall, I feel that Manjaro is a nice and stable distro.

The only negative I can think of is the community. At the time, I was bluntly told to read the manual whenever I needed help or pointers. But, my negative experience was from a few years ago, so hopefully the community has improved today.

My daily driver distro today is Mint, which I think is more polished than Manjaro.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

As you said, it's ready out off the box but most arch user dont want so many packages (like me) and change to a lighter OS like endeavour or so. It doesnt comes with all preinstalled so i can decide myself if i need it. And there where some mistakes that the dev team made (pushing the false kernel or so) which made some user quit

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I use Manjaro ARM on my Orange PI because I couldn't get Arch ARM to work on it, while Manjaro has support of my devices out of the box. Since I installed a minimal possible version (without any DE), it doesn't feel bloated or something. It feels like I'm using Arch but with slower updates. Overall, it's good and I don't notice much difference from Arch. But anyway, I haven't tried it for a desktop station.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I ran Manjaro for a year or so. It works well and the default theming looks great but I don't really see a point to the distro really. It's basically just Arch from a couple weeks ago with no AUR support.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It has AUR support. I use both Manjaro and AUR

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Used it for a year, hated it after the year (but enjoyed it while using because it was better than other distros becaus of Arch underneath).

Manjaro was always a hard and buggy mess to install something from the AUR or to change GPU drivers, its easy to break the system but in my Opinion Ubuntu is even easier to break and not understand what is going on.

Maybe its just me, maybe I need Arch, Debian or to fully set my system from the ground up. (I switched from Manjaro to Arch and never needed to reinstall Arch ever again compared to Manjaro)

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

I haven't used it but it's my go-to recommendation for Linux newbies. Partly because it's easy for me as an Arch user to solve their problems

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