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[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What are you gonna do, destroy historical artefacts?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yes.

We're going to destroy the Moai Statues of Rapa Nui, the 500 year old Ming Dynasty Zhenhai bridge, and the Bagerhat mosques of Bangladesh, simply by failing to change the society that is heating up the planet and causing the water to rise.

If you cared about preserving historical artifacts, you wouldn't troll climate change resistance movements.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Your grandchildren are going to live on a planet that's an unrecognizable hellscape compared to the paradise you and I were born into. If they survive. I don't think these people are planning to destroy any artifacts during soup night. They are trying to organize to do what they can to stop it, or reduce the damage. You should too.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Instead join a group that doesn't exist just to make people who care about the environment look bad - just because they claim to care about the same things as you doesn't mean they're the good guys.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

For what it's worth, I completely agree that threatening historical artifacts to get people's attention is counterproductive. I looked over Just Stop Oil and I don't agree with all of their tactics. Promoting some other type of action sounds better, to me.

But on the other hand at least they are doing something. If 10% of the world cared as much as they do, we'd have a much better chance of taking effective action against the apocalypse that's coming. As it stands right now, billions will die. We probably can't avoid that anymore, but we can reduce the number of billions, and the quality of the wreckage we'll get to inhabit in 100 years.

You can:

  • Join with Just Stop Oil, and participate in the good stuff and object to the bad stuff and not participate in it.
  • Or, join some other group whose actions are aligned better with what you think is a good way to accomplish the goal.
  • Or, pick someone who is actively harming the climate on a global scale every single day, on purpose, and direct your constructive internet criticism at them.
  • Or, out of all the universe of actions you could take in reference to the coming global hellstorm, pick a 10% segment that's doing something not quite right, out of the 0.1% segment that even cares at all, and point all your "here's what you should do better" feedback directly at them.

To me, I think doing one of the first three makes more sense than the fourth one. Again, I won't say you're wrong, but less involvement in doing anything is not the solution to it.