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I am an Indian and I have noticed that Indians are way too proud of their country for some reason and at the same time lack any civic sense towards it, they are extremely loud and extremely proud. We feel like the world revolves around India and our culture is superior to that of others. Also, a considerable chunk of the population has been sold the "India is a world-leader" myth and they think India is somehow leading the world in innovation, science and technology, human development etc.,

Now, I know for a fact that this is not true, when I try to gauge the perception of Indians abroad on Twitter, I get pretty negative results, but Twitter has nothing good to say about any group of people, so... I kinda wanted to know what you people though of India, don't base it upon the etnic Indians who might be your friends and are decent people, but base it upon the news you read, the stories you hear from those Indians, etc.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Regional power with powerful neighbours, has nuclear weapons, struggles with impacts of climate change, (completely?) electrified railway recently, doesn't take a stance on the war in Ukraine due to involvement with Russia, farmer's protests, BJP/Modi won't step down, religious conflicts.

My country's media don't report much about India, but occasionally they do features about specific topics.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

the "news" i "know" about india is little, some historical "facts" written mostly by uncivilized brutish invaders compacted to youtube videos by part or fulltime streamers. Some other "facts" which sound often bad i sometims mostly have from official media known to promote any "nice" propaganda - that is, depicting other countries worse than the own one so that people do not hunt their own gov with garden forks just to stop the crimes. Well i really "know" nothing about India.

But beeing proud of culture usually is a good thing, but that is only if it is culture and as such does not(!) base on abuse or similar.

Maybe what you experience could be a crowd effect that protects the people from seeing what they (group, society) do wrong while at the same time it protects the worst wrongdoers from punishment or at least from getting stopped. Such as it could be a self-sustaining downwards spiral taking more and more and everything down with it slowly increaaing pace. At least what you wrote sounded a slight bit chilling like that.

It could be hormones and how culture tells you to act or not act on them, or a lack of culture about such, maybe a combination of culture to "support your group" while that support does not always protect integrity of the overall concept of what that culture was meant for. A group of people cheering to each other how good they are might not want to stop cheering for "minor reasons" because it just feels good. While doing wrong things they could "help" each other (which is supposedly a good thing but can do lot of harm too) with arguments that this wrongdoing would be ok or even "good' in this specific moment because of <insert_bullshit_here>. alltogether spiralling downwards doing so more often every day. So all of them can go on wrongdoing while feeling well supported or even falsely feel superior in general.

however a figure (real/not real?) well known in india once said something like "it is better to calm down and just do your thing than to overreact". (this is the shortes version i've ever tried to compact it to but maybe you get the idea anyway).

I know for a fact that this is not true,

i don't know the underlying things that make it a fact, plz share.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I have never been to India and have no intention to travel there. My imagination is that it is overcrowded, the people there are mostly polite, hard working but not especially skilled. It is definitely a relatively poor country with a lot of inequality and crime.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

hard working but not especially skilled

Terrible education and bad priorities doomed this country. Having a billion people is useless if they are not well-educated. I know this tale way too well, this is the reason why people who can leave this country do leave it and most who can send their children abroad for education do send them there.

Fuck! who am I kidding, I will make sure my kids study abroad, the education in this country won't improve anytime soon.

edit: Good observation there!

[โ€“] AngryCommieKender 2 points 5 months ago

Since no one else mentioned it, The Baha'i Lotus Temple in New Delhi is on my bucket list to visit. Absolutely gorgeous architecture.

An architect that was based in London when it was built said of the project, "such a building would be extremely difficult to build in London. In India it will prove impossible." Not only did you guys build it, but there were 0 workplace fatalities in the process of building it.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I like Ram V and his comics, I don't like all the bhenchods calling my phone.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I have nothing wrong with it, my parents are from off the mainland.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

India is a world leader when countries are ranked by population. It's time will come, as the middle class grows and imports from other nations increase, but that is not happening in the next 5 years in my opinion.

India's inability to remove the caste system leads IMHO to an equivalent of middle eastern country's inability to allow women a meaningful place in their society, and is a massive hindrance to reaching its potential socially and economically.

On the positive side, absolutely has the best cuisine in the world

[โ€“] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Horrible place and bad English.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

hav darr yhou!? tbh I am working on improving my English much much more, I love the literary works and the poetry and I don't want my English to be a constraint while trying to read those works which require a higher level of English knowledge.

[โ€“] [email protected] -4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It's one of the World's Great Civilizations, rather than just a country like Ireland is, it's got more historical importance and influence.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I don't understand why people are downvoting you, you are right!

I don't like people taking credit for something that happened in the past (they had nothing to do with it) but you are right in stating that.

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