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[–] Zerlyna 155 points 4 months ago (21 children)

I’m happy to see almost 50,000 users. Sometimes it feels like there’s ten of us.

[–] [email protected] 84 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I've been enjoying that fact lately, it's been nice to have actual conversations with people, to actually have my thoughts challenged in healthy ways and to have my mind change and to change the minds of others without the intensity that predominates a lot of other sites. I feel I can talk to people here

[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think it's because people trend a lot older on Lemmy than Reddit. I imagine a lot of the more vile opinions you see on Reddit are teenagers. I've not seen much unhealthy discussion/ad hominen on Lemmy yet.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Also it trends towards a more intellectual crowd, even if primarily in the technical sense. Simply having to pick an instance probably keeps away a lot of the people who could otherwise flood every single community with inane questions - i.e. ask other people to do their work for them rather than do a 10 second internet search on their own.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sometimes, easy accessibility is a bad thing. Nobody profits off a large user base here. We should instead focus on having good users and a platform that serves those users.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I completely agree.

Reddit is worse because of its size, resulting in problems with spam/low effort posts and comments.

This smaller size is a bit of a double-edged sword though. If I want to discuss cooking/chef knives with people, for example, there isn't a niche community specifically for that topic. Maybe in this way it's best for people to head outside of Lemmy to other forums for more specific interests, and Lemmy can be more tech/general discussion oriented.

I haven't quite figured that out yet.

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[–] Lost_My_Mind 11 points 4 months ago (4 children)

And now for the part this platform doesn't want to hear. THOSE "problematic" posters are a GOOD thing.

You have to understand, if you took the world and seperated its humans by intelligence, the "idiot" group is going to be much bigger than the "PhD" group. Like......by a lot.

So if you ONLY cater to smart people, you ARE limiting your growth. Again.....by a lot.

So the eventual question needs to be asked. "What is Lemmy trying to be?"

Are you trying to be an alternitive to Reddit? Are you trying to replace Reddit? Are you trying to be a Reddit similiar niche community seperate from the mainstream?

Because if you want this to be a small niche unknown community geared towards older people, tech minded, then congrats. Thats what you have.

But if you want a broader reach, then you can't gatekeep the idiots. There's a reason they call them "the unwashed masses". Sometimes even quite literally.

[–] Rolando 7 points 4 months ago

if you took the world and seperated its humans by intelligence, the “idiot” group is going to be much bigger than the “PhD” group. Like…by a lot.

No.... you'd have a bell curve. But even that assumes you have a single good measure of intelligence.

I kind of agree with the rest of your post, but I would have worded it a bit differently, emphasizing that people who found it difficult to start using Lemmy might still be worth having around. Also, I don't think "as large as Reddit" or "small niche unknown" are our only options.

[–] Serinus 5 points 4 months ago

People trend towards your expectations. You'll still have a bell curve, it's just a matter of where it's centered.

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[–] Brunbrun6766 11 points 4 months ago

Also makes it easier to keep track of the bigots and idiots

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It's me, your favorite lemming!

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[–] [email protected] 78 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Discuit is not a federated social platform, and we do not plan to support federation in the future either. This is because we do not believe that federated platforms, for a few specific reasons, have a chance of becoming mainstream social platforms one day.

Cringe

[–] [email protected] 55 points 4 months ago (6 children)

Guess they never heard about emails

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[–] aciDC14 19 points 4 months ago

Guess i have no reason to go there then.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 4 months ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 39 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (5 children)

The beautiful thing about the Fediverse is that those 75 users are in an ecosystem with the 50k+ Lemmy/K/mbin users, along with users from Sublinks, Mastodon, Firefish, etc.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Haha dumb autocorrect. Firefish is what I was trying to say.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

PieFed represent! Highly recommended, the 'Topics' feature that aggregates multiple community is super valuable to me

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

It is a very neat feature indeed! I would use Piefed as a main if they had "Comments" view, but I guess it will come at some point

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[–] warmaster 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Wait, why is Discuit being accounted for if they are not federated?

[–] [email protected] 60 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

I think it's just a comparison because during the Reddit Exodus people often suggested Discuit instead of Lemmy because ActivityPub is "too complicated". So I guess this is a good demonstration that federation really is our best hope at replacing the big billionaire social media platforms.

As another point of reference vs Discuit's 6,787 registered users, Lemmy has 1,904,195 registered users. Kbin has 66,175, and Mbin has 5,453 registered users.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Before this post I had never even heard of Discuit.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Same here. I heard a lot about lemmy when Reddit killed itself.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's regularly brought up on /r/RedditAlternatives when we suggest Lemmy

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago

That's indeed the reasoning, thank you for phrasing it

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I wonder how many of those registered members are active? Maybe 38?

[–] ripcord 6 points 4 months ago

Last time I saw something, I think it was about 300.

[–] folshost 15 points 4 months ago (7 children)

Almost as many as there are in the colonial fleet in Battlestar Galactica. So does that mean we can expect that the colonial fleet had someone as prolific at shitposting as The_Picard_Maneuver? That's encouraging to know if so

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Does Discuit use ActivityPub?

[–] [email protected] 35 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Negative. It was usually quoted by ActivityPub skeptics who were looking for a centralized solutions, "easier to use".

I was never aware of the numbers, I'm surprised how much smaller it is.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Squabbles, later Squabblr, is also an* interesting casestudy in failure.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

He tried to capitalize on the Rexodus, but iirc could not pick just one lane b/t "freedom" and intolerance of the intolerant - you can never have both. Interestingly the Fediverse is currently deciding the same thing, with some neat new tricks coming in v0.19.4 that should help.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (14 children)

mastodon : when you block another account they cease to exist and can no longer interact with your account at all ever

lemmy: when you block another account, the only thing that happens is you can no longer see or interact with that accounts past or future activity, though they can still see, vote, and comment under yours which, just like reddit, is ripe for abuse and doxxing

there can be no discussion of tolerance or free speech when there can be no way to block other abusive accounts from your content or you from harrasment

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

that guy def had same vibes as spez, so nice of him to show what a dumbass he was before he got anywhere

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

That's a shame, what a perfect name for every social media site

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

No they don't, nor will they according to their about page.

[–] Etterra 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So what is its "unique vision" and how badly had it been co-opted by racists?

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