this post was submitted on 17 Jul 2023
96 points (100.0% liked)

Apple

17247 readers
226 users here now

Welcome

to the largest Apple community on Lemmy. This is the place where we talk about everything Apple, from iOS to the exciting upcoming Apple Vision Pro. Feel free to join the discussion!

Rules:
  1. No NSFW Content
  2. No Hate Speech or Personal Attacks
  3. No Ads / Spamming
    Self promotion is only allowed in the pinned monthly thread

Lemmy Code of Conduct

Communities of Interest:

Apple Hardware
Apple TV
Apple Watch
iPad
iPhone
Mac
Vintage Apple

Apple Software
iOS
iPadOS
macOS
tvOS
watchOS
Shortcuts
Xcode

Community banner courtesy of u/Antsomnia.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
top 41 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] LazaroFilm 37 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Every day I use my Mac intel 16” I regret not waiting 6more months and get the M1 version.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sold my 16 inch a month before the M1 came because I knew what was coming and I could spend that time away from a laptop. I got the full specced air (cause that’s what was release first) and that air was way snappier and equal or faster for my tasks (programming, photo editing) than the almost maxed out 16 inch. Best decision and you should switch asap.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I’d rather wait for the M3 release or whatever if it’s gonna be the same price for more performance.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Why wait for M3 when you could wait for M4???

[–] redcalcium 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is the reason I'm still using my 2012 MBP (with OpenCore Legacy Patcher).

2015: "Ew, butterfly keyboard? I'm going to wait until they release non-butterfly keyboard models"

2020: "They finally stop using butterfly keyboard, but M1 will be released soon. Might as well wait another year"

2021: "Not all apps has been ported to ARM yet. I'm going to wait a bit to see how it goes"

2022: "What's that? M2 is going to be released soon? I can wait just a bit more"

2023: "Wife just got an M2 macbook air and it's really nice, but what's this talk about M3 getting released soon?"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or you can get an M11 in an iPhone 8! (That's actually a motion coprocessor, but I think Apple has moved away from that nomenclature in newer phones to avoid confusion?)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

They killed off the motion coprocessors, I believe. Now it’s just a part of the A-series, gone the way of the 80387.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I said I would rather wait for M3, not that I would buy it on release. Hopefully by the time MV or M5 comes out whatever.

[–] Nioxic 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The m2 was more expensive though (m1 air vs m2 air)

And 3nm process is also more costly than 5nm?

You cant be sure that prices wont increase

[–] abhibeckert 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I’d rather wait for the M3 release

I wouldn't.

When the M3 comes out... the M1 will still be cheaper and effectively the same speed as the M3.

Performance has diminishing returns - at a certain point it's just "instant". The M1 got there for everyday tasks, and the M3 won't be noticeably faster for any of those.

[–] minorninth 1 points 1 year ago

The difference between the M2 and M1 was small for real-world applications, compared to the difference between Intel and M1, which was stunning.

Go to the MacRumors buyer's guide (https://buyersguide.macrumors.com/) and avoid buying a model when it's very late in its release cycle, but otherwise it's silly to keep waiting for a new model.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I got an Intel mini at work just before the M1s came out and then an M1 MBAir for home use. I have noticed the latter runs circles around the former, even with Rosetta emulating Intel. My main reason for buying the M1 was that I liked the fanless (and therefore noiseless) design and saw it as a good fit for home recordings on my multichannel mixer, but have been quite impressed with its overall performance.

[–] ToastyBanana 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ow, that hurts.. But on the other hand, when it came out, it was cutting edge tech if you were in the mac ecosystem! I remember seeing all those benchmarks and they fixed the fan throttling issues compared to the previous 15" macbook pros and had newly improved, studio-level mics/speakers 😄

I have a M1 air, and while it runs circles around the beefier intel macs, the screen and the speakers are shit. I wish I had waited for the M1 pros to drop.. I guess it's the circle of life, haha!

[–] LazaroFilm 2 points 1 year ago

It was. I had been holding off because of the butterfly keyboard issues of the macs before. When it was released, that was my main reason.

[–] quantum_mechanic -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It's the opposite for me. Every time I use my work M1 mac, I miss my personal Intel one. I have so many issues with the M1. It's by far the worst mac I've used.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I got an intel right when the M1's came out because I didn't want to be a guinea pig for the M1. I guess I will move up to M2 when those prices start to fall because the fan is a huge drag. Otherwise I love it; it was my first Mac.

[–] LazaroFilm 2 points 1 year ago

Wanna do a swap?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I myself only use "unsupported" macs I'm fine till oclp(opencore) stops supporting them. Probably when apple drops the last intel mac.

[–] AnotherPerson 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is a cool project. Thanks for this I had not heard of it before.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Really easy to use and set up. Highly recommend when you have an older mac(my 2012 i5 8gb doing perfectly fine for lighter tasks and normal use)

It's been pretty much the go to option for unsupported macs since dosdude1 pachter was discontinued.

[–] AnotherPerson 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've got a 2011 MBP that I've run Linux on with little issues. What does this do that is different or better?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think that you can't really compare it to linux since oclp let's you run OSX. I wouldn't say that it's better or worse just different.

[–] AnotherPerson 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Okay let me word that differently, what does it bring to the table?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It's an incredibly easy way to get the osx completely(most of the time) working on older/unsupported macs. Which massively increases the lifespan of a mac

[–] ForgetReddit 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Would really love it if Adobe would become compatible with M1. I have an M1 Max and editing anything other than ProRes 1080 is impossible.

[–] acosmichippo 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

that's ridiculous they haven't added apple silicon support yet. literally every app on my Mac has native support by now. with the money adobe rakes in there's no excuse for them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They also dragged their feet switching from PPC to Intel. Something tells me Adobe isn’t using Xcode, where you just flip a switch.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

stuff that's supposed to be fast might have lots of little bits and pieces here and there written in assembly, for performance. Replacing all that for a new architecture (while ensuring you get the exact same result) takes quite a bit of work

[–] acosmichippo 1 points 1 year ago

still we're going on 3 years now.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You can always upgrade them to a Linux distro. I run my Mac with fedora.

[–] AnotherPerson 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Do you use a mouse or trackpad? Last time I used Linux on a Mac my only issues with loss of smooth trackpad.

[–] Nioxic 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Linux on m-chip macs are so good that Linus uses one himself.

Thats the linux linus, not ltt linus

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I use my track pad but my Logitech mouse also works

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Is it better to run a linux distro on an old mac or go for an older OSX version?

[–] Stilicho 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well you can just have an up to date Linux system, that can be as bloated or bloatless as you want. It may take away some battery life and cause some thermal issues because of how Apple designs their products though, but you can probably fix that with some fiddling.

Really if you have the know-how, you can configure Linux any way you want.

[–] gabmartini 2 points 1 year ago

In my case, I have a Mac Mini Server 2011 but I use it to listen to music in HiFi. I haven't received my DAC yet, but when it comes, perhaps I will swap to a linux distro. Sound in macOS is soooo well made.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Running a Linux distro. Just for the security on a modern browser will be worth while

[–] Mostly_Harmless 3 points 1 year ago

They'll be supported by Linux

[–] aflat 2 points 1 year ago

Not sure they will give you a choice. I just had to give up my intel 16 inch due to it throttling all the cpus down. Even the jet engines couldn't keep it cool enough to not throttle.

[–] fellow_earthican 1 points 1 year ago

I have an MacBook Air intel (2020). I’m really tempted to just sell it or trade it in and get a m1 or m2 air. I have an m2 air for work. The only downside is 1 external monitor but I’ll probably never use it that way. I will miss being able to use virtual box. I know time is running out on the intel variants though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Intel will get this year’s update, and next year’s update and be canned after that.

load more comments
view more: next ›