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[–] Geek_King 12 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I'm out of the loop, what happened?

[–] sp6 27 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Save.tf has the full rundown. But basically, if you join TF2's casual mode (TF2's most popular game mode), there's a 50/50 chance the server will be overrun with user-created bots. These bots have aimbot, pick sniper, and instantly kill anyone who comes into their line of sight. They also try to votekick real players, and if there are enough bots in the match, usually succeed. The bot hosters are trolls who just want to ruin the game for everyone, and have gone as far as swatting the lead developer of MegaAntiCheat, a user-created anti-cheat for TF2.

There's been a big #FixTF2 / #SaveTF2 social media push recently, trying to push Valve to do anything to try to solve the bot problem. After a day or two of getting no response from Valve, people resorted to review-bombing the game.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Is... This any different than the last like 5 years of tf2?

I've tried to return to tf2 maybe 4 times in the last 5 years and this was my exact experience each time.

It sucks and needs to change, but what triggered the community to act now?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

Valve is working on another hero based shooter game. The news of that made a lot of people pissed since they have a very active and well loved hero shooter already that's being allowed to rot.

[–] sp6 6 points 5 months ago

Not too different. The bot problem started in... early 2020 maybe? Then it took about 2yrs for community leaders to start the first push of #SaveTF2 in 2022. Valve did a little bit back then to help (votekick changes especially helped), and things were good for a few months... but ultimately, things have slowly gotten bad again (if not worse). It's been 2yrs since #SaveTF2, so it was about time for another round, this time rebranded as #FixTF2.

[–] Nosavingthrow -3 points 5 months ago

Nothing. People want Valve to address issues in TF2 and have organized a review bomb campaign to get attention. My two cents, I don't think what they are asking for is feasible. There is an organized open source cheating project as well as someone hosting cheat bots that ruin matmaking.