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BC United MLA crosses floor to join Conservative Party of BC (www.pqbnews.com)

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“On the biggest issues, including affordable housing, cancelling decriminalization of deadly drugs, fixing our broken health-care system, making our streets safe, and putting our natural resources to work growing jobs and our economy, the Conservatives make sense as that new coalition,” said Sturko.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

"Our province and it's people are worse off today than they were just 7 years ago" - Sturko

So is every province, every US state, the UK, Australia, and every other country in the G7 as far as I can tell.

The issues negatively affecting quality of life across the world are not caused by provincial level or even most national politics, and changing parties isn't some sort of magical fix.

[+] [email protected] -9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If someone was to change to a one page flat tax, or abolish income tax, which would be a giat economic boost to 100% of the population, how could that change b done without changing the party in power?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

The same way most real changes happen, by changing the party platform at party conventions.

New parties are not going to sweep in and win elections. It's just not realistic under FPTP.

Become a party member for an existing party, and both propose and vote for ideas like you're suggesting at the convention.

You're far more likely to get the BC NDP to switch to land value taxes and abolish provincial income tax, than to start a new party and win any seats with that platform by itself.

As a side note. One page taxes are stupid, and eliminate an excellent method for the government to help align citizens with policy priorities without needing overly restrictive regulation, they also allow things that aren't possible under regulation. For example, child sport tax credits. You can't introduce regulation making it mandatory to enroll kids in sports, but providing them with a discount will likely lead to an uptake in youth participation.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I am against all tax incentives because that is picking winners and losers. A single tax page system or zero income tax with zero payroll tax, that is the only 2 choices.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The whole point of a government is to pick winners and losers. That's their entire job, passing legislation that allows, restricts, incentivizes, and disincentivizes certain activities to benefit citizens.

You sell vegetables, no PST applies. You sell cigarettes, PST + cigarette tax applies. You sell hand grenades, Nope, not allowed at all.

You aren't allowed to pollute in X or Y manner to produce your product. You aren't allowed to cut down trees in this area. You are allowed to ride a bike on the car roads, and you have the full rights of a vehicle if you do.

We're rolling out a program to support X people. We're rolling out a program to support X area.

What else do you think government does?

I also agree we should get rid of income taxes in order to benefit the economy, to be replaced primarily by land value taxes to eliminate 100% of all profit from simple (just holding it) real-estate ownership.

Single page tax is just a worse version of what we currently have. It has no upsides. it took me all of 20 minutes to fill out my taxes this year and I have both a T4 and self-employed income. The average citizen in BC has taxes that are even less complex than me. Would I like to see the government offer a free website to complete these easy returns? Sure, but that has nothing to do with simplifying the tax code.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I still say there can only be a single page flat tax system, or no income tax with no payroll tax.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

"I want it simple" is not a good reason to choose a system that's worse for everyone.

How does a flat single page tax apply to capital gains? Do you no longer get an exception for selling your primary residence? That's a great way to hurt the ability for people to move even more than we've already done.

You no longer get benefits from RRSPs, TFSAs, or educational savings accounts for kids. We're going to end up supporting a lot of broke old people in that case.

It's nice that you want it to be simple, but sometimes less options isn't better. It would be like saying you can only build your homes out of concrete to make it so that all houses are stronger against tornados and more mold resistant. Ignoring the fact that while they work well in some areas, cold climates and/or potential for earthquakes makes them a really bad choice in other regions.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I will only support a flat tax and reject all othes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Well, good thing you don't get to decide then.

[–] TSG_Asmodeus 6 points 4 months ago

‘Our province and its people are worse off today than they were just 7 years ago’: Sturko

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

B.C. United Leader Kevin Falcon said on CKNW this morning he considers Sturko's defection a "personal betrayal."

B.C. United spokesperson Adam Wilson said in a statement: "Elenore's decision to run for a party that is so out of line with her values and priorities in a new riding is shocking, and shows she cares more about her pension than her principles."

On the weekend, NDP MLA Mable Elmore shared a social media post from Paul Ratchford, the B.C. Conservative candidate for Vancouver Point Grey, in which he called Sturko a "woke, lesbian, social justice warrior."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/sturko-bc-conservatives-1.7222911

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I'm starting to think they aren't united.

Ba-dum-tish!