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Microsoft to spend $3.2B on expanding cloud and AI in green energy-rich Sweden (www.theregister.com)

submitted 6 months ago by boem to c/technology

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[–] Bookmeat 38 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Capitalism: the pursuit of finding ways to ruin a perfectly good thing.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Green energy is bad now?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Energy generation has constraints, whether it's fuel, processing requirements, or the infrastructure's generation capacity.

At best, this is proof of concept that will revolutionize the environmental impacts of Big Tech's new and even more environmentally damaging data centers.

But we've seen that dog and pony show countless times whenever the environmental cost of data centers gets too much press.

This is most likely just a cynical PR prop to wave around, as the rest of the AI facilities aren't run so "greenly".

[–] homesweethomeMrL 6 points 6 months ago

Definitely a cynical PR move.

[+] NotAnotherLemmyUser -12 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Why does almost every post in Technology have some comment trying to bring up the "capitalism bad" topic in some way?
Are you trying to say that Communism would have done a better job?
We've already seen how that has played out a few times already.

[–] Bookmeat 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

No one mentioned communism.

[–] NotAnotherLemmyUser -2 points 6 months ago

No one mentioned an alternative to capitalism and communism is the first that comes to mind.

Realistically what we have throughout the world (economically) is a mixture between capitalism and socialism. Some countries place more restrictions on corporations than other do. We already get that capitalism isn't perfect, and I don't think any realistically "perfect" systems exist.

So, if you're going to make "capitalism is bad" comments, what are you proposing that is better than what most other countries are already using?

I'd be on board with it if we can show that it's better.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Are you trying to say that Communism would have done a better job?

Yes.

We've already seen how that has played out a few times already.

Yes indeed, the USSR had affordable housing, low homelessness, high employment, no rents, no bills and after a devastating land war against a superior power that flattened half the country, they still had the science and tech to beat the US to space (and develop nuclear tech without cowtowing to nazi scientists) and got the GDR to decriminalise homosexuality all while US still had Jim Crow laws. It is obvious to anyone - especially the corpos - that a planned economy is superior in allocation of resources.

Sure luxuries weren't as available, but normal, working people lived comfortably and without financial stress.

That's not to say that USSR's own imperialist ambitions weren't misguided at best and crimes against humanity at worst, though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

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[–] robotica 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

On the surface it is true, but in reality all of those things came at the expense of people's liberty and the people themselves - they jailed or killed anyone that didn't agree with or was seen as an enemy of the state, resources were actually incredibly scarce and there was a lot of famine (just in the less important parts of the empire), nobody trusted anyone and people kept stealing things for themselves anyway. Oh also child labor and many many more things like that.

Like I understand the good part of communism, but oh God is the USSR the worst possible example of that, they didn't even have real communism anyway.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Agreed on all bits except the liberty. USSR really wasn't throwing people in prison for being disagreeable, undesirables and those branded enemies of the state more than the US.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago

Greenwashing AI you say?

[–] victorz 3 points 6 months ago

Hopefully my loan interest will go down ever so slightly. Because this is ridiculous y'all. 💸