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[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Real pity. It was an important idea that should have gotten a chance.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Check out European sleeper, that company is already doing this

[–] hushable 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

and NightJet by ÖBB, different routes, but a lot better IMO

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

As far as I know those services are barely breaking even, using the few remaining old sleeper wagons. Growth of them is not likely because new wagons cost a lot and profitability is low.

[–] Badeendje 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Just put less rows of seats and have them properly recline. Some people will want small rooms, but cheap sleeper seats help as well. People sleep in planes too.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I want to say that sleep is terrible because blood flow isn't as good as when lying down.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

There is a reason pressure socks are sometimes recommended on very long flights even for people with no prior heart issues :)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The quality of sleep you get in a reclining seat will be well below that of a fully horizontal sleeper bunk. Unless it’s one of those first-class airline pod seats which reclines all the way, though those take up more space than compartments of sleeper bunks, and only exist because of aviation safety requirements which don’t apply on railways.

[–] Badeendje 2 points 5 months ago

Yeah good point. In the transsiberia express they have 1st class, 2 person compartments with beds and also 4 person compartments with bunkbeds as 2nd class and 3rd class is an open wagon filled with 3 story bunkbeds.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago

This is a great map of the night train services across Europe.

https://back-on-track.eu/night-train-map/

They vary significantly in levels of comfort and price, but there’s a lot to check out. Shame this new service didn’t work out.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There's already a company doing this, with lines already going. European sleeper! Night trains with private cabins and beds between Brussels, Amsterdam, Berlin and Prague

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Right, Midnight Trains was a French company trying to create a European night train network that centred on France, specifically on Paris. I think they found out the hard way that for various reasons, as they detailed in their blog, France might not be the best country in which to organise such a company; it also might have been simply too ambitious of a project for the current market.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Ah, that was on my list of "looking forward to try". The Porto to Hamburg line they had in their promotional material sounded really cool.