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A federal judge has ruled Oregon’s voter-approved gun control measure – one of the toughest in the nation – is constitutional.

U.S. District Judge Karin Immergut ruled that banning large capacity magazines and requiring a permit to purchase a gun falls in line with “the nation’s history and tradition of regulating uniquely dangerous features of weapons and firearms to protect public safety," Oregon Public Broadcasting reported.

The decision comes after a landmark U.S. Supreme Court decision on the Second Amendment that has upended gun laws across the country, dividing judges and sowing confusion over what firearm restrictions can remain on the books. It changed the test that lower courts had long used for evaluating challenges to firearm restrictions, telling judges that gun laws must be consistent with the “historical tradition of firearm regulation.”

Oregon voters in November narrowly passed Measure 114, which requires residents to undergo safety training and a background check to obtain a permit to buy a gun.

The legislation also bans the sale, transfer or import of gun magazines with more than 10 rounds unless they are owned by law enforcement or a military member or were owned before the measure’s passage. Those who already own high-capacity magazines can only possess them at home or use them at a firing range, in shooting competitions or for hunting as allowed by state law after the measure takes effect.

Large capacity magazines “are not commonly used for self-defense, and are therefore not protected by the Second Amendment,” Immergut wrote. “The Second Amendment also allows governments to ensure that only law-abiding, responsible citizens keep and bear arms.”

The latest ruling in U.S. District Court is likely to be appealed, potentially moving all the way up to the U.S. Supreme Court.

The Oregon measure’s fate has been carefully watched as one of the first new gun restrictions passed since the Supreme Court ruling last June.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The legislation also bans the sale, transfer or import of gun magazines with more than 10 rounds unless they are owned by law enforcement or a military member or were owned before the measure’s passage.

Exempting the police from gun control laws and giving them control over the permit process isn't gun control. It's just funneling arms away from the vulnerable communities that need means of self defense (and are the ones usually on the receiving end of disproportionate state violence) and giving them to the communities that oppress them.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

You said this far better than I did. The police should have less power over the populace, not more.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

It also doesn't make sense to then say that magazines with capacity of greater than ten rounds are not in common usage for self defense.

Presumably, a police officer should ONLY use a firearm in self defense. Unless we are just willing to say that police officers need large magazines to shoot people as punishment?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Your point is precisely why I voted against this law. Tried to argue it with some of my local friends but don't think I changed any minds (unfortunately).

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I want general gun control. That's not what this is.

This is targeted at allowing right wing extremists and their police friends to continue to be armed while systematically discriminating against BIPOC and visibly LGBT individuals and preventing them from defending themselves. This puts people with demonstrated hard-right predilections in completely unaccountable positions of power to grant and deny the right to exercise a constitutional right.

This is conservatives pulling up the ladder after them, in the poison pill guise of a classic liberal agenda.

[–] Treatyoself 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Fuck yeah Oregon. These are good laws. I hope a lot more states follow.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

This law is absolutely terrible because it's the police who get to decide whether or not you deserve a permit. Do you really trust the police to make that decision? Especially in rural Oregon, it's going to be used to deny permits to out-groups like non-white people and non-heteronormative people.

[–] aaaa 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's lot of good here, but this law has a major flaw, which is the permitting system is under sheriff's jurisdiction. I'm not the biggest fan of putting the permit process under the control of police, as they get a lot of control over who can get one.

I am still glad to see it passed, and I'm surprised it survived the constitutional challenge, but I hope they keep improving the laws and don't leave them this way

[–] axtualdave 5 points 1 year ago

It's not done yet. The ammophiles will certainly appeal it to the SCOTUS, which isn't exactly rational lately. I'm sure Justice Alito will find a relevant quote from a 12th century blacksmith saying that the Duke cannot legally prevent him from forging horse shoes, and because horses are instrumental to war, are considered "weapons" and thus, the government can't place any sort of restriction on guns because horses are people too, he'll say, citing Tina Belcher.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It's going to be appealed and struck down. The judge's reasoning is just incorrect.

There is no tradition of regulating "uniquely dangerous features". Capacities over 15 rounds aren't even "uniquely dangerous" and are in common use.

Having a license/requirements just for ownership presents a number of problems. How many other rights do you need to take a test for? Here there isn't really a plan nor funding. The cops are supposed to handle it, somehow, but it's questionable if it will actually be shall issue. I very much expect the process to have the same problems as 'may issue' carry permits.

I almost wonder if the judge made a this shitty of a ruling just to get it to the supreme court.