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This is the place for discussing the potential collapse of modern civilization and the environment.


Collapse, in this context, refers to the significant loss of an established level or complexity towards a much simpler state. It can occur differently within many areas, orderly or chaotically, and be willing or unwilling. It does not necessarily imply human extinction or a singular, global event. Although, the longer the duration, the more it resembles a ‘decline’ instead of collapse.


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Dr Henri Waisman, at the IDDRI policy research institute in France, said: “Climate change is not a black or white question and every tenth of a degree matters a lot, especially when you look at the socioeconomic impacts. This means it is still useful to continue the fight.”

and while I agree with the sentiment, we really aren't "fighting" are we, quite the opposite. Every thing we're doing is wrong, how do we know this ? CO~2~ppm is still increasing, fossil fuel use increased in 2023, planes are still droning overhead, cars still driving, more roads being built and winded, the Antarctic is being stripped of krill to make pet food etc

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