this post was submitted on 14 Jul 2023
7 points (100.0% liked)

Music Theory

303 readers
1 users here now

A community to discuss the technical workings of music.


Helpful symbols, for copy-pasting into comments

♯ ♮ ♭ 𝄪 𝄫 ø ° Δ ♩ ♪ ♫ ♬ 𝄐 𝄑 𝄞 𝄢 𝄡 𝆒 𝆓 𝄀 𝄁 𝄂 𝄃 𝄆 𝄇


#Rules

1. Stay on topic. All posts must relate to music theory.

2. Civility. Disagreements and discussion are great, but hostility, insults, and so on aren't. Any critiques should be focused on ideas, never on individual users.

3. No homework help on specific assignments. It is against the Academic Honesty Policy of most schools and courses. Our subscribers generally dislike this kind of behavior. Please ask your IRL teacher/tutor for homework help instead. It's important that we get such posts taken down ASAP, so in addition to reporting, please report such posts.

4. Don't make this place annoying. Memes and so forth are fine, but mods reserve the right to remove inappropriate or overposted material.

5. Promotion. Promotion of one's content is allowed, provided it is not excessive or mindless. If you regularly post your content but do not otherwise interact with the community, you will be banned. If you link to something that costs money, you must say so in your post.


#Related communities:


Regarding moderation and reporting: https://join-lemmy.org/docs/users/04-moderation.html

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
7
How did you self-teach? (self.musictheory)
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Xenoceratops to c/musictheory
 

What are your experiences with self-teaching music theory? You don't have to be a 100% autodidact to answer this question; you probably have had times when you read a book or watched a video to learn some specific idea or technique. Ideally, I'd like to compile some guides for readers who don't have a teacher.

Personally, I prefer close reading of books and articles, but I know that's hardly a universal approach.

top 8 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] Jongtr 4 points 1 year ago

I read books, basically. Starting with the ABRSM's Rudiments back in 1970 (having been a self-taught guitarist for 4 years by then), and countless (largely forgotten) books after that, just whenever - and only as far as - curiosity drove me. I had the advantage of school music lessons (age 10-11 only), which meant notation held no fears for me. But when it comes to applying what I learned - composing and improvising - that comes from studying music, both on recordings and from sheet music. I was composing and improvising before ever studying any music theory. Still, now, my theory reading is not for any practical purpose, to help me with my own music. It's just intellectual curiosity, helping build an overview of history and genre. More pieces in the big picture jigsaw.

[–] Jordan_the_hutt 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not exactly "self" teach but just talking with friends about it helps a lot.

[–] Xenoceratops 1 points 1 year ago

A peer group can certainly be a good motivator as well.

[–] IllBeBach 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Currently mostly self-teaching myself now. I had one composition lesson and now he's busy but that was enough to spark a bunch of motivation to look up things where I thought would solve my main issue: not having the piece/improvisation stay in one key but to be able to freely change key to be able to access different "flavours". I started with Jens Larsen's videos on Jazz theory, tried a bunch of Max Reger's book on modulation, got a few tips from Anne-Kathrin Dern (especially on harmonic planing), went through some June Lee/Jacob Collier stuff...that's all for now. Something else will come up for me to learn. In the meantime, I actually ought to write/improvise some music with this newfound knowledge.

[–] Composter 2 points 1 year ago

Reger's book is interesting because it doesn't teach directly what it seems to be about (practical and musical ways to actually pull off these transitions) but it does teach principles of the fastest route and common tones to get your brain moving. Particularly C to B# major. You learn these 2 chord motions and how to daisy chain them.

[–] mEaynon 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Self-teaching since 2/3 years, with composition as main goal. First I spent some time identifying the main topics (music theory, counterpoint, form, orchestration, jazz, 20th century techniques, post-tonal theory, DAW, etc...) and finding appropriate books (r/musictheory and r/composer where great sources for that). Then, studying these books by taking notes and practicing (listening, composing, studying scores). These notes represent today ~20 PDFs and ~1300 pages.

Younger, I also studied piano and bit of music theory at school.

I must admit I spent more time studying theory rather than actually practicing. I'm currently working to revert that trend ^^

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@Xenoceratops Currently self teaching as well. I've joined online communities where music is discussed and trying to get through some deep books like Counterpoint in Composition, Harmony & Voice Leading and hoping to get into Taneyev's works later. I try to self correct as much as I can and post work often to get an idea of where my holes in understanding are, so I can continue my studies.

[–] Xenoceratops 2 points 1 year ago

I think it's funny that there's such an emphasis on simplicity and accessibility in self-study resources, yet the one book I consistently see mentioned by self-teachers is CiC.