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Pastor’s recent call for the execution of parents of trans people is an extension of religious moral panics (the-angry-atheist.com)
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[–] ME5SENGER_24 3 points 1 year ago

All these religious fruitcakes are too much. I don’t understand faith, I will admit it. But to say you’re a person who does and then calling for executions and for people to be strung up on bridges to display their wickedness. What reality do these people live in? Does their version of god shoot lightning out of its fingers like Emperor Palpatine? When I was a kid, we learned that dinosaurs walked the earth and the earth was round. Nearly forty years later, were still apparently having the same conversation and the ones who doubt these 2 pieces of information are 99.99989% religious. So what does this tell us? It tells us, they’re just a bunch of no good liars that pick and choose what they believe in and use a fictional novel to defend it.

[–] LegionElite -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not sure I understand this. I mean, I don't agree with the whole trans gender thing but nobody should be executed for it. If that is what this pastor means then he definitely doesn't belong to God.

[–] ja2 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They need to be convicted in trial and immediately shot in the back of the head, and then we can string them up above a bridge so the public can see the consequences of that kind of wickedness. There should be no excuse to not put these people to death.

I'm not sure there's any ambiguity about what he means, unless his words are to be interpreted the same way apologists interpret "The Bible."

Also, gods would first have to exist for anyone to belong to them, so I think we can assume that he belongs to none, just like the rest of us. Just a plain old, smooth-brained, garden variety, bigoted asshole.

[–] LegionElite -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well I can certainly tell you that people like that will surely rot in hell for an eternity. So don't worry about it. You can't fix it. I hate this evil crap too.. the world has gone absolutely bonkers!

[–] ja2 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As unfortunate as it is, there is almost certainly no such thing as hell, either. Sometimes, people who behave abhorrently get to live out their entire lives being hateful and influencing others to be the same way for the sake of superstition and fear, and then they die peacefully in their beds. Some excellent people get abducted and murdered. Innocent children are trafficked, starve to death, and die of causes that have been treatable for a hundred years.

There's no rationality to it, no fairness. It's just how it is. Armed with rationality, unclouded by paranoia and cult worship, maybe we can help a handful of others around us to see the mess for what it is and they can get some social comeuppance while they're alive to experience it.

I don't mean to yuck your yum, but this is a community supporting atheism, not supernatural revenge theory :)

[–] LegionElite -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No worries. It's alright that you don't believe what I do but there's no need to berate or mock what I believe. I'm still very much a human and I have human problems just like anyone else. I'm not perfect based on my belief of God and I don't go around telling people they're going to hell because they've been mostly a horrible person.

Seems like you're really upset with Christians? Yeah me too... I'll even go as far to say that I hate them and I don't believe for one second that they really know or believe anything they claim. They are self-serving pieces of crap in my opinion but as for me, I do know God is real and if it weren't for him, I wouldn't have made it through such a bullshit life as I have.

I'm sorry you don't want me here. Didn't mean to upset anyone and I can respect you as a person still... even if you don't believe what I do. In the same way, if this is how an atheist looks on social media then what is the difference in your thoughts towards me and my belief if this is how you conduct yourself?

I guess you put everyone who talks about God in the same box. Such a shame! It's like me saying that I think people that wear shoes are delusional.

[–] ja2 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s alright that you don’t believe what I do but there’s no need to berate or mock what I believe.

I will be respectful to you. No such courtesy is owed to beliefs. Anyone here is free to berate or mock beliefs all they like.

I don’t go around telling people they’re going to hell because they’ve been mostly a horrible person.

Good for you?

I do know God is real

No, you don't.

if it weren’t for him, I wouldn’t have made it through such a bullshit life as I have.

Apparently you are a stronger person than you think, even if you humbly choose to give that credit to mythological figures.

I’m sorry you don’t want me here.

First of all, I never said or implied that. Second, don't apologize for what you perceive to be my desires. It's disingenuous and childish.

if this is how an atheist looks on social media then what is the difference in your thoughts towards me and my belief if this is how you conduct yourself?

I don't understand what you are implying here. If you exist in a bubble where beliefs are sacrosanct, beyond reproach, you may not want to involve yourself in a community that is effectively the antithesis of that mindset. That has nothing to do with whether I want you here or not. It has to do with feeling comfortable.

I guess you put everyone who talks about God in the same box. Such a shame!

Again, I'm not going to guess at your implication here. There's nothing shameful, in a community called /c/atheism, to make a distinction between 1) people who believe in gods, and 2) people who do not.

It’s like me saying that I think people that wear shoes are delusional.

If those people are insisting that they have shoes on their bare feet, run around saying how awesome those shoes are, and prattle on about how they wouldn't have gotten to where they are today without those shoes, all the while you're looking at their naked toes... then they are delusional. You would be right to say they are, and you should make sure everyone around you can hear it.

[–] LegionElite -1 points 1 year ago

Ok... you're cool!