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Between flanger, phaser, and chorus. I know some people swear by putting phaser or flanger in front of their dirt. But for me, with an MXR Micro Flanger, it was just too subtle in front of my dirt pedals. I just obtained an MXR Phase 95, and currently have after dirt with my flanger. They're both going into front of amp, which I do have on the dirty channel, but with low gain. And my chorus is in the loop along with delay and tremolo.

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[–] MiddleWeigh 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right now I'm running phaser early, fuzz>phaser>dirt. Then chorus and flange are right before delay and reverb. I usually only use one, two at a time at most. Everything in front of amp. I'm relatively new to the modulation game, and still dialing it in, but so far I'm getting the sound in my head this way, and def prefer phaser before dirt. I like the subtle thing.

BTW thanks for making this community whoever

[–] baronvonj 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So far every reply is phaser > dirt > flanger. Do you ever run the chorus with either of the other two?

[–] MiddleWeigh 2 points 1 year ago

So my chorus and flange come from the deco, so I can't run them simultaneously, besides doing the auto flange for small passages, which sounds great btw.

Usually if I've got phaser going, it's alone, or with some very very subtle chorus as a sweetener/thickener.

[–] baronvonj 2 points 1 year ago

I suppose it only really matters if you have more than one of them engaged at a time. I mostly just have the phaser and flanger going into front of amp due to how my board is arranged.

[–] rbz365 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've gone back and forth with them, but I definitely like a slow phaser earlier on in the chain, right after my germanium fuzz (which is first due to buffer effects on it), but before the rest of my dirt. Flanger stays as close to the end as possible (though my flanger is a Deco, so I put it where the Tape would be in reality (at the end).

[–] MiddleWeigh 1 points 1 year ago

That's how I rock my phaser. Right between ge fuzz face and a dirt. Sound great.

[–] baronvonj 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks, I'll try that out.

[–] KammicRelief 2 points 1 year ago

I like my phase 90 (script version) before dirt. It's subtler, more natural and kinda pink floydy / phishy. Every once in a while I'll try it after dirt and it doesn't sound as nice to me.. Kinda artificial.

I'm still figuring out where to put my Mooer Elady (which I use for subtle chorus sometimes).. It seems less picky about pre/post dirt but I could be wrong.. Still figuring it out!

[–] WholeLottaButtStuff 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Phaser is one that seems to work well both before and after dirt, just depends on what you want to get out of it.

For years I was putting my Phase 90 after dirt and it was pretty cool that way, but it does push the phasing effect to its absolute extreme. Then one day on a lark a couple years back I tried moving the phase before dirt, and just absolutely loved how subtle it sounded. The feeling of movement was still there, but not way in your face any longer, and it just seemed much more natural and beautiful sounding to me.

But it isn't 'wrong' in the slightest to put phase after if having that more extreme sound is what you want/need

[–] baronvonj 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks @WholeLottaButtStuff (do you play bass? lots of bottom end there). I noticed the phaser is much more prominent than the flanger, both before and after dirt. Could just be from my choice of pedals! I found the flanger way too subtle before dirt. The phaser was still noticeable before dirt, and I could work with it (like if I were in a band and covering a song I'd want to order more like what the original player did), but just for at home noodling right now I like it slapping harder after. I think if I ever get back into a band I'm going to have to go for a loop switcher so I can setup playlist banks.

[–] WholeLottaButtStuff 1 points 1 year ago

I do play both bass and guitar... but I've never actually used phaser with bass, so I can't really comment on what would work best it.

When I comes to bass effects, I like filter type effects, but that's pretty much it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If I'm going into a loop, I prefer this order. EQ>Trem>Phaser>Rotory>Chorus>Flanger>Delay>Verb.

[–] baronvonj 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks! Just to make sure I'm reading it right, EQ first and Verb last?