I don't know how I feel about that. They both deserve to be treated like cartel criminals. NOTHING LESS.
You gotta realize criminals and street life is the same as the mainstream. Please trust me.
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Agreed. Rationalizing one as being the 'lesser evil' is basically just shifting the Overton window. Both are evil. Both deserve to lose. If they can make each other lose that would be ideal but if only one wins, we all still lose.
It’s odd to me people think Elon is more evil anyway. He’s definitely louder and stupider but way less responsible for tearing apart the fabric of our society. And some of his projects have been a net positive.
They should both lose to death but if we’re gonna make the comparison, Zuckbot is hands down more evil.
That being said, it will still be hilarious if zucc beats the shit out of Elongated Muskrat.
Agreed, I may have more of a gut level disdain for Elon, but Zucc is clearly way worse because of the way Facebook's algorithms have harmed society.
That's cause Elon's a fucking troll on top of being a douchebag. At least Zuck has the decency to try to hide it.
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Fuck Elmo but I just don't want Meta to replace Twitter's social media niche. I would prefer if Mastodon would be the next "Twitter" but at this point I would be okay with Bluesky too. The Meta cancer is already big enough and has too much influence.
I'd rather have a moderated site replace Twitter at this point, even if it's run by Meta. My first choice is for an intuitive non-Meta alternative to rise to prominence, ideally in the fediverse, but I think Mastodon had its chance and its unintuitive nature was too challenging for a critical mass of lay people. It needs to be: sign up, start posting. Instead it's: sign up, choose your server. Huh? You're already losing people.
All this has already been covered but it has to be simple and intuitive and that's what Threads is offering and Mastodon isn't.
Exactly this. Anything too challenging for a third-, grader is done before it starts in terms of mass acceptance.
I think everyone in the ActivityPub hopes Mastodon is the next Twitter but other than that, it's a tie between the all three. I think Bluesky has the best chance since it has the cleanest plate but it'll absolute turn into a shit hole like the rest.
Cohost would be cool.
yeah people are giving too much power to a single company.
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This sentiment is so fucking wrong. Please, for god's sake, please understand that Zuckerberg is NOT the lesser of two evils here. Meta facilitated a genocide by artificially promoting hateful content to boost engagement, quietly and without obvious consent performed behavior experiments on its users, and so much fucking more that the two aforementioned points barely even scratch the surface.
You people are trading being punched in the face with being beaten senselessly with a baseball bat.
Add cambridge analytica as well, it used to be all over the news but now everyone already forgot about it
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No, the correct answer is "fuck both of them". You don't need Twitter, you definitely don't need Threads.
You don't even need Mastodon for that matter. You don't need a constant drip feed of dopamine. If you need to stay informed, you can just use news sites or something.
We need discourse. News sites are largely owned by rich men and corporations.
hmm, that's a fair point. I have heard things about independent journalists making use of platforms like Twitter and Tiktok. I wonder if independent journalists have begun to adopt Mastodon as well, or just decentralized social networks in general, to share their news.
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Content creators need them though, specially artists.
Tons of artists, specially japanese, are actually moving to mastodon and misskey right now, which is a great sign.
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It's definitely not worth it. Zuckerberg is the bigger fish here, at least within the social media domain. Meta's threads replacing Twitter would make them even more powerful than they already are. I don't like Elon, and it's crazy that he somehow managed to make Twitter even worse than it was, but we really don't need Meta to grow even larger.
Yeah exactly. Once the Zucc also reaches out for Tumblr, the last bastion of "Ugh, we don't want Corpos here", we're done. We need to stop both Eloy and Zucc even before that. The Fediverse needs to fight an active war, we're already living the Cyberpunk Dystopia.
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how about both twitter and threads die and the people win?
But then whose boot do we get to lick?
Forgive me, but is the answer “Your mom’s”… ?
If you want to kick some boots, get a partner and lick theirs, or just lick your own.
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I want them both to lose. Twitter dying would be in some ways, a victory for the people. But giving zucky more control over people's lives is a horrible idea, especially when you take into account meta's past. But we don't have much say in what happens there, so we gotta learn to fight back.
Threads is banned in Europe which will probably leave a lot of people sad, if you ask me that's the perfect opportunity to advertise mastodon and other fediverse projects to your friends, family, etc. Talk about it on bigger platforms if you still have an account on them, engage with posts and videos about the fediverse and how to use it so we can get them into the algorithm. Every little bit helps, we can do this.
I want them both to lose.
I read this one sentence and immediately imagined a Celebrity Deathmatch type scenario where Mark and Elon and beating the shit out of each other, but in the end Jeff Bezos shows up and just drops like Scrooge McDuck's entire vault on the other two billionaires and claims the victory.
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Trading one asshole billionaire for another is a losing game. The only losers are users of these services.
It's like two giant Mecha robots fighting while a crowd of fans of one or the other are cheering on the ground and being squished.
ngl, i'd rather twitter wins since it's imploding already so it will hardly survive for much time after it beats threads down
Yeah there's nobody taking the Zucc down a peg. Dudes a literal machine.
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So here's what we do: we let Threads kill Twitter. Then, when Twitter is dead, we kill Threads.
'we' = 500k people or so
'them'= 2 fucking billion people
In the fight against one evil should we really join another evil to do that
No. Meta needs to die.
still don't want zucc to win, tho
The worst part is that they will ppv the fight and split the earnings. I personally don't give a shit about this fight but know a ton of people will pay to watch these two fuckwads fight
You don't need either of them and if you feel that you need this kind of site then mastadon will work fine until you figure out that you don't
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I think the funniest part of this whole thing is how Musk insists Meta MUST have poached employees from Twitter, as if Twitter has this revolutionary sauce that just can't be replicated at all.
Bluesky is even closer to Twitter's UI than Threads and I don't see Musk bitching about it at all.
Why use either?
Theres mastodon as a twitter replacement.. lol
I‘d enjoy it if they both lose money/attention and more of it went to the devs and admins of all these instances I like. Unlikely, but I can dream.
but why use threads when you could use mastodon? When threads enters the fediverse it is like the ad free version of threads (from a threads user perspective)
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