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[โ€“] bwoah 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We went from somebody replacing de Vries next year, to him being replaced after the summer brake to this lmao. Dr. Marko doesn't play around

[โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

I think RB leadership are concerned with Perez performances and so the timetable for finding a replacement had to be accelerated. This move gets them some good data on both Danny Ric and Yuki since they have sim comparisons of DR with Max and Checo now.

It's been clear for a while that NdV does not have a future in Red Bull so no point in wasting time on him, as harsh as it sounds.

[โ€“] Disecto 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So Danny Ric back in to fight with Tsunoda and show if he has what it takes. Next year they get Lawson into the AT and whoever from the 2 got the better hang of it replaces Perez at RB? I just don't know if any of the 2 would want to replace Perez, whoever goes to that seat is clearly a n2 driver with no shot at challenging Max and would quickly be stopped on their tracks if they tried.

[โ€“] Samwizegamgi42 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I just donโ€™t think anyone can compete with Max in that car, maybe ham or another top driver. They seeming were gonna let Checo fight with max, but then he shit the bed in Qualifying the past 5-6 races so doesnโ€™t have a chance anymore, or are we saying RB has done it on purpose?! But do agree teams donโ€™t want two number 1 drivers, after 2016 for merc, Baku and, way back, Turkey for RB, teams want a solid #1 and a competitive #2

[โ€“] Disecto 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I'm not saying they are doing anything on purpose based on this season, Checo let it slip in a few races and got himself into this position alone. But from Danny Ric's season with RB I think it was obvious they realized they couldn't have another driver fight for wins with Max, as Max was just way too dangerous fighting in those situations. So now they want a clear 2 to support Max and sit behind him, reaping the points to guarantee the constructors.

And I dunno who would want to take that role willingly

Edit: after a second thought my comment sounds like RB will have to force someone to drive for them lol not at all, I think a lot of drivers would be happy to drive for them. I just think that sitting on the shadow of Max all the time won't be amazing for their career.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

And I dunno who would want to take that role willingly

guys, Iโ€™ll take one for the team and get slaughtered weekly by Max. Itโ€™s a tough job but someone has got to do it

I actually was in an open practice session with him on iRacing before so I have relevant experience!

[โ€“] Samwizegamgi42 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Totally agree no one want to be designated second best, just look at Webber, bottas, Rossberg, Barrichello! All great but just shells of themselves at the end! Look at how much life bottas seems to have after leaving Merc! Would be sad to see happy and bubbly ricciardo turn into that, but could see him enjoying a few years back near the top before retiring/ contract ending before the next reg change in 26

[โ€“] Disecto 2 points 2 years ago

Yep exactly, but at the same time you would be driving for the clear number 1 team in the grid right now, there is no refusing that, even if you are putting yourself against the current best in the world (IMO) on the other seat.

I hope it will work out for whoever replaces Perez, if they even replace him. Right now AT has confirmed Ric is back, so it is not boding well for Checo

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Helmut Marko strikes again! Now, who gets his seat? Lawson or Ricciardo?

[โ€“] bwoah 13 points 2 years ago

According to Erik van Haren, it's Ricciardo.

[โ€“] docmox 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Tough call. The return of Danny Ric would make for great TV but deep down I think Lawson should get his shot.

[โ€“] debunker 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Putting Lawson in this shitbox mid-season is a recipe for disaster. Would make more sense to have him have a fresh start next year.

[โ€“] docmox 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Good point. They swapped Gasly with Albon mid-season and that could have gone better. Iโ€™d still like to see Lawson get his shot at some point.

[โ€“] debunker 2 points 2 years ago

Yes and Albon already had some F1 experience. And that red bull was not easy to drive, but likely less of a shitbox than this years AT.

[โ€“] BlooD2711 7 points 2 years ago

Not even waiting till the summer break? Wow

[โ€“] docmox 5 points 2 years ago

Tough for Nyck but F1 is a ruthless sport. At 28, Nyck is a seasoned driver and has likely shown what he is capable of and is unlikely to develop much further. I donโ€™t see a reason for keeping him in that seat any longer.

[โ€“] goldenjoe6 5 points 2 years ago

Damn Red Bull is brutal

[โ€“] Determinator 2 points 2 years ago

Rough go of things for de Vries but I'm excited to see Danny Ric back on the grid

[โ€“] GeneralEmergency 1 points 2 years ago

de Vries was always a stop gap solution until a RB Junior was ready.