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[–] [email protected] 71 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No way they'll be able to join whilst illegally occupying an EU member state

[–] Badass_panda 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

Yep, that's the one

[–] [email protected] 61 points 11 months ago

(Defacto) Dictatorships don’t belong in the EU.

We have our hands full with Hungary, thanks.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

He keeps changing his demands all the time. If turkey are let into the EU he will just come up with another excuse. No thanks.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago

Give him an inch, he’ll take a mile then call you an Islamophobe (if you are not Muslim) or a terrorist (if Muslim) for not giving him 10 miles.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago
[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago

Not counting the obvious blackmail aspect of the Two Pence Sultan's demand, the whole idea is stupid.

EU and NATO are separate organizations with separate structures. While most of EU are NATO members, NATO issues aren't, shouldn't and cannot be decided in EU bodies. I'd be very surprised if anyone in EU (including Sweden) would change their stance towards Turkey unless they themselves undergo fundamental changes to match the applicant criteria.

Unless Erdogan has his head totally up in his own arse, He knows this. He's probably upping the ante to later back off and make a deal on some other issue that has been too much for NATO or the US up to this point.

Ofcourse this is just my reading of the situation and I'm not an expert on Turkey or international policy. It just seems to fit Erdogan's Modus operandi.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago

I don't trust Erdogan one iota, but as a Greek, I'm glad to see the EU reappearing in Turkish public discourse.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Um, this is exactly why we don't want you in the EU, Erdogan. Last thing we need is you blocking everything that everyone else in the EU agrees upon.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago

Bargaining like a carpet seller. Really up to EU standards. We had it for 40 years with the UK, not going to try again with Turkey

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Thanks, buy that like still can't be viewed without JS. Can you please just paste the contents of the article in the comments?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago

Giving up freedom to one dictator in exchange for potential protection from another dictator is a shit deal. No thanks.

[–] 2Xtreme21 7 points 11 months ago

Guess Erdogan got enough of what he wanted… wonder what it costed…

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-66160319

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

There's a looong way for Turkey to ever qualify for EU and Erdogan isn't the one leading it when it's possible

[–] UnfortunateShort 4 points 11 months ago

Can we maybe end this farce by having the US sign a treaty with Sweden and telling Erdogan to go pound sand?

Because if we're gonna be real here for a moment, everyone besides the US is hardly relevant. They're in the EU already, so who cares?

[–] MrNesser 3 points 11 months ago

Here's the problem, Russia is facing a very real possibility of falling apart. Turkey is in NATO for its strategic position with Russia.

Ergo no Russia threat no real need for Turkey to be a member state in anything.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Oh no Sweden is getting invaded tomorrow... By... Russia?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Yeah, they’ll just go right through Finla…

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