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[–] cowfodder 48 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Hold on why does that graph go from 35000 to 45000 to 20000 that doesn't make sense. That's not how a continuous axis works

[–] cowfodder 43 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's just a simple chart that shows that pirates were preventing global warming.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Oh fuck your so right, the pirates are the independent variable fuck

And it's organized by date, that's on me I took an edible and I was busy listening to contrapoints analyze twilight. Also I'm at the gym, it's quite a lot to process rn

banger video snapewives for context

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

maybe the deaths of pirates is what makes time progress

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

We can only observe the passage of time through change so in an enclosed system of one pirate we would only observe the passage of time when they die so long as they do not move beforehand. So in an immovable multipirate system we would only be able to measure time through the rate of death even if that rate is not constant.

Is it possible that within this system there is no objective passage of time? Could it then be stated that the death of pirates in the causing the passage of time?

[–] shoppingrat 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

its the real numbers from the times and temps recorded. its not so much that its continous, just that those are the available data points

[–] LemmyIsFantastic 0 points 9 months ago

Lolol she they chose to represent it in a changing scale? 👌👍🤣

[–] AbsurdityAccelerator 30 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Biden is getting my vote in November, but not during the primary.

[–] rifugee 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

As usual, I voted for who I wanted in the primary and I'll vote for who I must in November and, as usual, they won't be the same person.

[–] littlebluespark 1 points 9 months ago

Nor will it matter, in the end.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago

Ah yes, those two things are related.

[–] BeatTakeshi 17 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

His quote started by : "we are trying to work out a deal ".... Is this" calling "? Barely. Also the dude is the only person who could enforce it rather than ask for it. Such hypocrisy knowing bibi is gonna say no again. Uncommitment has a long way to go to make a difference

[–] LemmyIsFantastic 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Lmaoooooo binder has been trying to work out a deal for months. Delusional stuff. I hope you enjoy Trump.

Jesus Christ progressives know how to lose a fight 🤦‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Why would Israel want to make a deal?

We keep giving them everything they want

[–] Linkerbaan -3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

A deal to send israel more weapons?

[–] Spiralvortexisalie 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I love these threads because I get to feel like a downvote farmer for saying something as crazy as a candidate should earn a vote. That the powers that be seem so committed to their unpopular candidates is surely going to make them lose. I have met many Trump supporters, even many that voted Biden in 2020, but the Biden support seems to amount to “well he’s not Trump”. I had at least met Hilary supporters in 2016, and Biden had the whole “not Trump” wave in 2020 where he barely won with record turnout. Biden does not even announce his stops anymore because he fears protests, does this sound like someone who earnestly believes he is the only one who can beat Trump? If he cared he would step down from running, if these people who don't want Trump cared they would join the chorus instead of telling us to be quiet. Hell even not running would give Dems a clean slate because their new candidate would have clean hands compared to Biden or Trump.

[–] Linkerbaan 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

It's like liberals don't understand how Unions work If you told them to unionize they would say "no that's scare we could get fired".

The witholdal of votes for Biden is basically a mass union protest. When enough people join Biden will have no choice but to cave in to his voters demands.

[–] Rapture 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

From what ive seen they still wont vote anyway, because he didnt meet their demands soon enough, and insist everyone vote for a third party candidate that i havent heard even mentioned until they brought them up

[–] Linkerbaan -2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

The longer this goes on the more likely it is that Biden will not be able to win back their vote. They told Biden to call for a ceasefire three months ago. There will be consequences of course.

Biden might still be able to win them back if he stops the Genocide right now, and especially if he recognizes a Palestinian state or actually pushes for a solution to the problem.

Another turning point that is now being reached now is that Biden is no longer been seen as the lesser evil as he will murder all of Palestine in the West Bank when he gets elected too. So instead of third party Biden is starting to convince them to vote for Trump out of spite.

Once again, the faster his Genocide stops the better. Not just for weird people like me with "morals" that care for all the little children being massacred by israel, but also for everyone that actually wants Biden to win.

Biden has been warned for a months now and he still refuses to stop, surely he's prepared for the consequences.

[–] Rapture 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Its specifically because of my "morals" that im disgusted by people who recognizing trump would be no better for palestine but decide theyll "vote for Trump out of spite" so we have a genocide in gaza, and ukraine AND america because biden is calling for a ceasefire now instead of earlier.

Im sorry ive had close friends deeply affected and even die due specifically to trumps actions and believe there is more than a single issue at hand, and im sorry that i think steps in the right direction (even if they arnt as significant as i would like, eg climate action, social issues, the ceasefire) should be met with at least some form of positivity rather than an increase in hatred an insults, but i guess i just dont have any "morals" huh?

[–] Linkerbaan -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Do you know how Unions work?

If a single person doesn't show up to work they get fired.

If the entire company doesn't show up to work, they get more salary.

We're going to find out whether Biden wants to stop Genocide or fire Democracy.

[–] Rapture 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

To use youre analogy, its like the the union workers got a pay increase, but it wasnt as much as they wanted, including me, but ive seen some people make some pretty wild demands that would out the company out of business for other reasons and a bunch just say they are going to strike no matter what because they didnt give them a raise sooner and are mad, with very little feedback of what specifically everyone wants

If the company goes under the only other place to work is amazon, who have been doing a lot of hostile takeovers lately and have announced they will solve their financial issues by cutting worker pay, and safety standards. I already lost a leg last time i worked there and watched a bunch of coworkers get evicted due to not being able to afford rent, so thats not an option i can accept, ill kill myself if im forced to work there again, and id love to go work at one of the competing small businesses people say they are gonna start (vote 3rd party) but i have yet to see a business plan that lets them compete

I could go on, but this analogy was already strained to begin with. My point is the ceasefire is the best thing ive seen biden do for gaza so far, and all of the comments in those threads are the most hate ive seen him recieve so far, a bunch of it not even related to gaza. We are about half a year out, and i have yet to see anything close to a viable alternative so i believe biden will lose, trump will win. Its like watching a countdown to my own suicide

[–] Linkerbaan -4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

My point is the ceasefire is the best thing ive seen biden do for gaza so far

What ceasefire? Has anything been achieved?

We said "The Genocide stops or no votes". You can thank Biden for throwing the election because he wanted to cosplay as Hitler before dying.

[–] Rapture -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Fuck off and die you incincear shitbag "blame biden for me refusing to vote for him unless he goes to war with isreal" you know exactly what i was talking about and refuse to even come to a point where we can disagree but come to an understanding. This is why everyone calls you a russian troll

[–] Linkerbaan -3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Biden is starting to feel the pressure. Turn up the heat!

No ceasefire no votes !