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EU regulations are likely to force WhatsApp is to open their servers to Matrix soon (www.youtube.com)
submitted 9 months ago by uis to c/technology
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During Matrix FOSDEM talk it was mentioned that there is already working bridge that preserves E2EE.

EU, I belive in you!

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[–] abhibeckert 17 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

I wouldn't say "force". Meta is all in on being open these days and they're going in that direction even when they're not required to:

my view is that the more that there’s interoperability between different services and the more content can flow, the better all the services can be

[...]

it was fine to have these systems that people felt a little more locked into, but I think for the mature state of the ecosystem, I don’t think that that’s going to be where it goes

-- Mark Zuckerberg

WhatsApp wasn't the first to open up but that makes sense given it has a few billion active users and an open E2EE encryption protocol is really difficult to implement.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (2 children)

E2EE encryption is like saying ATM machine.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago

RIP in peace

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Wait until you hear about WINE (WINE Is Not an Emulator)

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Ah, recursive acronyms. GNU's Not Unix.

My favourite is the GNU Hurd project. Hurd stands for "Hird of Unix-Replacing Daemons". And Hird is "Hurd of Interfaces Representing Depth" :)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

GNU’s Not Unix Hurd of Interfaces Representing Depth of Unix-Replacing Daemons

Nice

[–] uis 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Maybe. Still WA seems the only messager EU cares about.

[–] filister 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

WhatsApp is very popular in West Europe, but Viber is more popular in East Europe and that one is currently riddled with ads and annoying pop-ups.

[–] uis 1 points 9 months ago

Right, forgot about them.

[–] Asudox 2 points 9 months ago

That's because WA is very popular in the EU.

[–] uis 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

WhatsApp wasn't the first to open up but that makes sense given it has a few billion active users and an open E2EE encryption protocol is really difficult to implement.

It's rather easy. Especially if you deal with 1-to-1 chats. S/MIME exists since 1995 and it's not even first E2EE protocol. Like PGP. Double Ratchet E2EE proto that is used in signal, wa and matrix was created in 2013 for Signal. Although Olm(Matrix) uses sligtly different cryptoprimitives from Signal, WA and OMEMO proto.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

https://piped.video/watch?v=s5BrVVf0B1I&t=1758

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.

[–] ilmagico 2 points 9 months ago

Forced to embrace, extend and extinguish? Or is this actually a good thing? (sorry I didn't watch the whole 50 min video)