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Linux reached 10% of the desktop operating system market in Greece!

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 year ago

10% linux is massive

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How about govt computers? Do they have Linux on them or what? 10% is pretty big 👌

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sadly, they still run windows... Wish that will change in the future...

Edit: mostly cracked versions of windows : ) (and the older the sector, the older the windows version (eg. xp))

[–] azuth 5 points 1 year ago

I think they are present in some school computer labs in a server and full/thin client combination.

[–] MetaPhrastes 20 points 1 year ago

Be it for economic reasons, be it for any other reason this is really good news! Kudos to Greece and to all Greek people. My country, Italy, is still below 1% as of June 2023 according to statcounter so there's still a lot of work to do! Seeing Linux as an option to bring back to life second hand or old hardware, preventing wastes and promoting circular economy is an idea I really like.

[–] Korkki 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is it the greek government using linux in gov computers or just hobbyists?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A lot of people have pretty old desktop computers and can't upgrade. They start using linux instead of windows to get better performance

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Hopefully they at least have ssd and 8gb ram.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

From my experience it is mostly windows vista/7 era hardware that gets the linux treatment usually.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because they don't like paying the Microsoft "tax" 😏

[–] Korkki 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tax really is a good word for it. When you basically have a monopoly on or just act as gatekeeper to something and there is no market and no real competition the fee and profits you are making is basically taxation.

OSs kinda also act like natural monopolies because of software compatibility. People tend to gravitate towards the option that has most software support for ease of use. Windows should either be taken over by taken over by international bodies to be handled as global commons (of which I seen never happening) or it should be replaced with a open OS like Linux. Same could be said with social media, because it's equally retarded to have the agoras used by the public as a profiteering tool for capitalists who abuse their power and leech from their monopoly, when the user base is the only thing that gives a platform any value.

[–] fhein 6 points 1 year ago

Add digital identification and payment to that list. As society is going cash-less we've got to depend on privately owned proprietary software to do shopping, banking, taxes, to use public transport, and to access healthcare. There are a few different companies providing digital IDs here, but none of them have a client that runs on Linux. Their mobile apps require either an iPhone or Android with Google Play Services.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

This is the year of the FreeBSD desktop.

[–] sabriy01 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

seems god but i wonder how did linux become popular than osx on greece?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

No money for Windows :P

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Probably bc Macs cost twenty times the average annual salary there

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Twenty time ? 20x? I think Indonesian has already bad enough about 7-10 times of annual salary to buy Mac.. yet greece condition seems worst...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I was being extremely facetious

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Mac is just extremely pricey and very underwhelming for an everyday person. UwU

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Greek FreeBSD users have ceased to exist.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Netcraft confirms it!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I had noticed that we've been pretty high on global statistics for years, but hadn't seen anyone point it out.
Και το βλέπεις και στη πράξη, οι linuxάδες δεν είναι σπάνιοι, και όταν μιλάς σε τεχνικούς/support δεν σε κοιτάνε σαν εξωγήινο αν ακούσουν για Linux.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does the greek keyboard layout offer a fast switch into latin letters? How does 'Linux' look like in greek letters?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As far as I know the greek keyboard layout is based on the US style alignment, with the characters swapped. The Greek alphabet has fewer characters than Latin after all. The standard quick way to change the input in Windows, and the one I'm using in Ubuntu is hitting Alt+Shift. Spelling Linux phonetically would be Λίνουξ.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Interesting. Thanks for letting me know!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

More than twice that of OS X? Pretty impressive!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

apple products are not popular outside of the north america.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

i would not agree on that at alll

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

One of the few things that makes me proud to be a modern Greek! :)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

is it counting android as linux?

if so, it shouldn't be, imo. android is deployed and used differently than Linux and is not really the same in spirit. if you can't have root, I'd not count it as Linux for the purposes of something like this.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

It says Desktop Operating System, so I would assume not.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It says desktop in the image, I assume if it counted android it would be over 50% since apple is not as popular here.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Android is at 52%, desktop linux at 4% if you count desktop + mobile.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

4% is still massive.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Android is counted seperately. I checked.

[–] guriinii 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bravo! Out of curiosity, why does the Greek have "my" at the end?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It seems you translated it. 😅 Well it is a saying... When someone is excited or proud of someone/something. I don't know the specifics (even though I am a native). So please, if anyone else wants to explain, feel free to do so...

[–] MetaPhrastes 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm not a native but I can try to explain. Greek has two forms of expressing possession: the first is simply the genitive of the personal pronoun (in this case μου is the genitive of the first person singular pronoun εγώ). When expressing possession in this way it always follows the noun it refers to whereas the article comes before e.g. "my house" > "το σπίτι μου" and it's invariable. (Note that in English possessives are determiners and can not co-exist with articles it's either one or the other, in Greek this is not the case). The second form is in combination with "δικός" and these behave more like adjectives and must agree in gender and number with the noun they refer to "my house" > "το δικό μου σπίτι" vs "my houses" > "τα δικά μου σπίτια".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That is true... And that explains it in a literal sense

[–] christos 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What?

Yes!

I need to check the source though.

OP correct the spelling: Ελλάδα, not Ελάδα.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Βιασύνη αδερφέ! Σε ευχαριστώ.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

let's go aegean brothers 🤝🏻💪🏻💪🏻🤝🏻

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