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The U.S. government should block the import of low-cost Chinese autos and parts from Mexico, a U.S. manufacturing advocacy group said on Friday, warning they could threaten the viability of American car companies.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I thought corporate industry liked the free market and no regulation.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago

They have no problem abusing the same "loophole" for their plants in Europe and Asia.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

The free market is a myth

[–] [email protected] 49 points 7 months ago

American EV manufacturers are consistently cutting their production citing waning demand. This is obviously false since the US is blocking cheap imports, car makers have everything to gain by limiting supply and keeping prices high.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Chuckles, "Yep, only American manufacturers should be allowed to cheaply build cars in Mexico and export them to the US."

[–] [email protected] -5 points 7 months ago (3 children)

The issue is they're wanting to sell $30,000 cars for $15,000 (with the rest paid for by the Chinese government) which sounds great as a consumer until all the other manufacturers exit the market due to the impossibility of competing with those subsidies. Once they eliminate the competition, they'll start selling these $30,000 cars for $50,000+ because "fuck you who else are you going to buy from?" That's not to say the current crop of manufacturers aren't fucking us over too but this isn't how you eliminate that problem. You're just trading one bully who steals your lunch money for another.

[–] filister 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Oh come on. The US has super conservative and protectionist policies.

The fact is that both CATL and BYD have the upper edge in battery technology. And that a lot of Chinese car manufacturers have very good and competitive products.

European car brands are really struggling to transition to the future and still can't figure out their software and technology. They are run by old guys who are still trying to save the ICEs as this technology is a gatekeeper of their businesses.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

True, but banning them seems like using a nuke to deal with a fly, just a bit overkill. I don't expect the Chinese to play fair, but it seems that just saying that the rules only apply to American companies seems wrong and lazy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I don't think outright bans are much of a solution either. Tariffs would usually apply to a situation like this but it seems they can bypass those by building in and shipping from Mexico.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

True, I'm not sure what the solution is, but saying the rules only apply to certain players rubs me the wrong way. And that's not even getting started on how much of the threat comes from US automakers refusal to produce electric cars until they were staring down a gun, plus how much they want to sell large expensive vehicles so they get nice large paychecks. Sure, China could and prolly is subsidizing their electric car industry, but we could do that too, in a way we already are with the tax credit only applying to American made vehicles.

[–] diffuselight 3 points 7 months ago

You think giving away ChatGPT for free isn’t distorting a market ?

[–] PP_BOY_ 5 points 7 months ago

Yeah, let's protect the interests of fuckhuge truck and needlessly expensive luxury car makers. Almost as if domestic makers know that they make shit and the only way to stay afloat is by holding the American market hostage (and annual government bailouts).