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[–] [email protected] 68 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

What's unusual about preferring the more stable and predictable party? Republicans are less anti-Russia one day, then say some bs about space nukes the other. At least Biden's a bit more consistent.

[–] SuckMyWang 1 points 10 months ago

Holshit! He must really really, really not want Biden to win

[–] [email protected] 63 points 10 months ago (13 children)

Reverse psychology? Is he trying to make libs think that Biden has been compromised by Russia, therefore Trump wins, which is actually what Putin wants?

[–] grabyourmotherskeys 47 points 10 months ago (10 children)

It's just trolling. Next magas will say "he's scared of Trump" and so on.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

https://youtu.be/KX2WVIaVUGo?t=23

I would say at least our electorate is smarter than Elmer Fudd, but...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I don't think that anywhere near as many people that thought Trump was "compromised" would believe Biden has been. If anything Biden constantly demanding more and more money and arms stockpiles from the US to go to Ukraine is kind of a win for Russia. As it means less money and arms are being kept by the US. It weakens us in money and supplies. The constant cheerleading about standing with Ukraine until the end and all territories are returned, kind of makes it hard to save face and cut off the supply line. Trump being much more prone to impulses and thrives on attention is much more likely to change directions even if people scream at him about it. Just as long as he can be the centre of attention and not really care about the situation.

That being said, Putin is definitely fucking with everyone. It helps create chaos for both parties to constantly be too focused on accusing each other of being "compromised." And the best part is that he doesn't even have to actually do anything other than exist for this to happen.

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[–] toasteecup 50 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Does that mean Republicans are going to vote Biden since they shill Russia?

[–] [email protected] 42 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Nope. Just means that Republicans are going to switch back to anti Russia suddenly and without a reason except "he said democrats are good"

In reality, putler's entire strategy for the US has been to create discord and chaos and bank on the fact that we'll be too paralyzed as a country to properly react to the things Russia does.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

Don't think that'll work in his favor but then again, he also thought he'd conquer Ukraine in 3 days...

[–] SkabySkalywag 41 points 10 months ago

God damn mega troll... Gotta admire the legendary mind fuckery against for both sides though.

[–] teamevil 27 points 10 months ago (10 children)

Welp we now know the truth... Putin is pushing for Trump again.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

Imagine having coherent politics and recognizing that Putin knows that Biden is more stable than Trump and would be less likely to escalate the war in Ukraine...

...Instead of having to be like "is he playing mindgames? Is this him trolling us? He says he wants blue team to win in 2024, but we are blue team and we hate him!"

[–] dvoraqs 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Trump seems like he is more likely to dismiss the war or help the Russian side by weakening NATO. Why would Biden be preferable to Russia if he is going to continue trying to supply Ukraine?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The thing is Trump would either weaken nato by insisting on member nations upping their military expenditures or escalate the war.

In the first case NATO doesn't need to weaken for Russia to accomplish its immediate objectives, it is weak enough already.

In the latter case nukes might fly.

It makes sense for Putin to want Biden to stay president, there would be no additional winning and major risk with a Trump presidency.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

or escalate the war.

This seems to run contrary to everything I've read about Trump's position. The first half of what you said is at least somewhat accurate. But the second half is contradicted by numerous reports from Trump that his approach would have been to "take a deal" and get out, implicitly with substantial land concessions from Ukraine. And then there's the fact that both of them have profess to having positive relationships with one another and admiring one another.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Trump did a random missile strike on an Iranian general, he can unpredictably escalate stuff.

But the second half is contradicted by numerous reports from Trump that his approach would have been to “take a deal” and get out.

Okay but do you think he'd actually follow through, and do you think that a negotiated end to the war would be a bad thing?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Trump did a random missile strike on an Iranian general

It wasn't random. It was to appeal the warhawks in republican party. If you remember how it went, they were ramping up rhetorics and manufacturing consent for war with Iran, but that stopped really abruptly, like cut with knife. I don't know what was the real reason or their combination, it might be that the manufacturing consent was not working as intended, maybe ithey pushed too fast, maybe Pentagon wasn't ready, maybe because Iran shot down their most modern drone with old Soviet missile using domestically manufactured radar proving their deffensive capabilities were more significant than what Pentagon assumed. Anyway, the ramping to war stopped so suddenly that even the leading warhawk that is John Bolton was surprised and he even got sacked from WH which prompted him to publish book where he accuse Trump of being less warhawk than himself and many rep senators.

So Soleimani was assassinated to appease the warhawks and because US have to have last word.

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[–] OtakuAltair 7 points 10 months ago

So he likes that Biden is more "predictable" than Trump. Ig that's true enough.

[–] Geobloke 6 points 10 months ago

Probably because that would cause more internal strife than a trump victory

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] OtakuAltair 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Americans seemed to care alot about Putin supposedly being a Trump supporter though

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

So that means dems will now have to turn against Biden because that admission is more proof than they ever had for Russiagate.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Meaning he would really hate if biden wins. It's always the same shit, accusing the "enemy" of exactly what they are doing, and pretending the exact opposite of what they want... Nothing new under the sun.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Probably thinks Harris would be easier to control once statistics catch up.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Well, the emergency war meetings will be bubbly

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