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That entire instance is infested with a massive amount of right-wing hate, transphobia, homophobia, and ugly political vitriol under the guise of "allowing free speech", rising to the same level or worse than lemmygrad (which we have already defederated from for obvious reasons). Please get this garbage off of the "all" page given that the entire instance actively breaks the rules of lemmy.one and is only providing them with a larger platform. I think a few trolls may have already spilled over.

just take a 20 second scroll through this mess or any of the other communities there: https://lemmy.one/c/[email protected]

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[–] Spacebar 64 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If a web platform is tolerant without limit, its ability to be tolerant will be destroyed by the intolerant.

In order to maintain a tolerant Lemmyverse, then we must all retain the right to be intolerant of intolerance.

Exploding-heads is an intolerant site not just overrun with, but run BY biggots. You have to cut them out like a cancer before all of Lemmy becomes a site like Voat or Truth Social.

[–] ExtraMedicated 53 points 1 year ago (1 children)

lemmy.world already defederated them, and gave explanation here: https://lemmy.world/post/747912

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think this post is for lemmy.one

[–] ExtraMedicated 8 points 1 year ago

Yes, I posted this to give info about another instance's decision and especially their reasoning for doing so, since it seemed applicable here.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (16 children)

I'm not on your instance, so I don't get a ton of say, but I would just recommend that part of the Alt-Right's playbook is getting seen by as many eyes as possible. exploding-heads is trying to find ways to game the federation system and the algorithm to determine "hot" to platform their hate and pipeline people who don't recognize the dog whistles to their side. Whether you mind or don't mind seeing the content or can or cannot block the communities and users from over there is immaterial to exploding-heads's strategy. The point is to get seen that first time.

Further, whether you agree with the above, please consider this: telling vulnerable groups to do their own moderation on an individual level is an inherently privileged stance. Part of the alt-right's strategy is cyber-bullying. I'm going to focus on the cyber-bullying in this section of this discussion, just under the assumption that people disagree with my stance that exploding-heads is trying to promote a particular political agenda. Whether you agree or disagree on that point is immaterial. There is no denying that exploding-heads users engage in a pattern of cyber-bullying against minority groups. The aim in that case is to cause mental harm to those minority groups. If there's a pattern, why not address the root cause? That root cause being that exploding-heads is not moderated or administrated to the standards other instances in the federation expect, or even to the standards laid out in their sidebar rules.

Users of the fediverse join the instances they do with particular understandings of the rules and moderation styles that administrators provide to their users in their sidebar and any documents linked from there before signing up. Here are some selected rules from lemmy.one that exploding-heads users break regularly:

No racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, xenophobia, or casteism

No incitement of violence or promotion of violent ideologies

No harassment, dogpiling or doxxing of other users

Do not share intentionally false or misleading information


So, please. To the administrators of lemmy.one, consider these points when you make your decision. Let your own users' voices stand out more. But if you're a lemmy.one user, please take all of this into consideration as you make your recommendation

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I appreciate this. ✊

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago

Agree, that place is a cess pit of absolute trash

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago

I just looked through and that whole community looks like /r/terriblefacebookmemes, but they're serious

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

Those people are sociopaths

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

Yeah, the rest of the instance is a cesspool as well. Dank memes isn’t the worst of it.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In mastodon you can mute an entire instance without having the main instance do it for you. I wonder if theres a plan to add this to lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That already is a feature of Lemmy!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No it's not you can only block communities as a user but not whole instances.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Ah good point, still learning!

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Make them defederate from you. Just galvanize a group of volunteers to mirror everything they post from your own instance, but edit “left” to “right”, “black” to “white”, “Biden” to “trump”, “liberal” to “conservative”, “trans” to “cis”, “gay” to “straight”, and let them decide how “free” they like their speech.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hate speech with different targets is still hate speech. You're only going to further convince them that they are right to be hateful.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Very true. Thanks for pointing that out.

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