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Paramotoring, or Powered Paragliding, is an amazing sport — the cheapest way to fly! The gear is also very compact and there's no licensing in the United States (although training is strongly recommended).

There's a nice brochure here with some of the more frequently asked questions. But also please feel free to ask below and I (or someone else) will try to answer! :)

Note: I realize this is a niche community, so feel free to ask even if this post is old!

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[–] DaMonsterKnees 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I find all of this impossibly interesting and very tempting, but I gotta ask; ballpark figure, what's the likelihood of an idiot like me killing myself doing this?

[–] aeharding 6 points 9 months ago

I'd say quite low if you get good training.

The main way people die in this sport is doing completely avoidable things such as flying over water (drowning) without taking proper precautions (floatation and boat support).

Another large source of injuries is by starting the paramotor on the ground, instead of on your back. If you start it on the ground, it can be hard to keep the propeller away from body parts with a runaway throttle. But if you start it on your back, the issue is a mere annoyance and not dangerous at all. Again, completely avoidable problem!

With good training, you'll know the risks and how to be a conservative, safe pilot.

https://www.footflyer.com/paramotor-fatalities/

[–] thesporkeffect 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Cutting to the chase: Cost (New): $4500-$12,000 Motor, $1700-$4500 Wing, $1200-$2500 Training, $1000-2500 cart (optional)

[–] aeharding 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, that checks out!

Also worth noting that renting gear is sometimes included in training fees. So you don't have to buy outright, and your instructor can help you choose safe, appropriate gear when the time comes.

And also if you're on a budget, your instructor will be able to help you find safe used gear (there's a lot of 💩 gear people are trying to unload online).

Whatever you do, do not buy gear before starting instruction! I've seen many time people buy gear online that's completely inappropriate for them before seeking training.

[–] Chocrates 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I really want to get into paramotoring. I feel like I saw a class for like $10k and decided I wasn't rich enough for it.

[–] aeharding 1 points 2 months ago

Yeah. It's not cheap. But class should definitely be much cheaper than $10k.. http://www.madcityparagliding.com/prices.html is $2.9k for example. That is about typical.

Of course gear is extra, but you don't need to consider purchasing until after training is done. Rental gear should be included with training.

Also places like Mad City allow paying in increments, and renting gear after graduating while you save up! And if they know you're on a budget they should be able to help hook you up with some used, cheaper but SAFE/modern gear.

Lastly any reputable instructor should encourage you to come out for introductions, watch people fly, show you the gear and what the sport is about, totally free. :)

[–] Everythingispenguins 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Do they have a regulated flight ceiling? Or are you just limited by the motor? (Restricted air space not withstanding.)

[–] aeharding 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Effectively no. I think you can technically fly up to 18,000 ft (class E airspace), but pretty much all paramotor pilots will never fly anywhere close to that high.

Besides, it's pretty boring and cold. All the fun is flying down low by the trees, fields, outcroppings etc :-)

[–] Everythingispenguins 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Is that I assume that is 18,000 MSL not AGL right?

That makes sense. Though it seems kinda fun to do once just to see how high they will go. I might have to see if there is a school near me. I might be able to pull off affording one.

[–] aeharding 2 points 9 months ago

Yeah MSL. I think all airspace is MSL, except for class G

You should check it out. I know instructors often are happy to let you come out and watch, even do an introductory class for free, so there's no commitment.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Hey just found this community! How expensive is the cheapest way to fly? I'm sure there's many price points but maybe just an on average? And is the fan powered via motor or battery?

I'd love to get into this hobby!

[–] aeharding 1 points 6 months ago

Hey, awesome!

How expensive is the cheapest way to fly?

Probably about $10,000 US to get training and initial gear. However depending on your instructor you can pay as you go, for example pay training in chunks, then afterwards rent gear from your instructor, save and buy wing, then save and buy motor.

And is the fan powered via motor or battery?

Most motors are two stroke. However there are some electric motors. For example, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWU6Mqi6GTw

If you want to get in to the hobby, check out what instructors are in your area, if they are any good they would be happy to have you come out and show you around, answer your questions etc.