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The Senior Tory MP has called on both the government and Labour to show courage and admit that Brexit has failed

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Should've never left

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Staying in the single market for goods was one of the brexit options that no one got to vote on, aka the Norway model, that would have prevented the vast majority of brexit issues

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Staying in the single market for goods would have certainly helped with many of the logistical issues business and consumers have faced due to Brexit. But remember that the UK/EU Trade and Cooperation Agreement has at least allowed for tariff-free and quota-free trade in goods since Brexit - not as good as the single market, but at least not the worst possible outcome for goods trade.

The UK, however, is a service-based high-skill economy. From a growth and employment and competitiveness perspective, it's trade in the service sector (and ultimately re-entry to the single market for services) that is the big prize we need to shoot for - where the Brexit agreement fell woefully short and which the Tories seemed clueless about the importance of it in the negotiations.They invested huge amounts of political capital in fighting over arrangements for fishing (which accounts for less than 0.1% of the UK economy) but basically never went in to bat on services (which accounts for about 80%).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure, but there isn’t really a single market for many services even within the EU anyway. If you’re French, you can’t buy car insurance from Italy or have a German bank account. And those are the upper reaches of the services economy. It goes without saying that you can’t have a cross-border haircut or swimming lesson. The vast majority of services are extremely local by nature.

As for the City, there’s still plenty of Chinese and Arab money to launder so I’m sure they’ll be fine.

Btw, I say all this as a staunch remainer. Brexit was dumb, but it’s free movement and trade in goods where most of the effects are felt.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you’re French, you can’t buy car insurance from Italy or have a German bank account.

They literally can and do. It's just so seamless within the EU that people who aren't interested may not even realise they're dealing with a company from another EU country. Being able to sell services cross-border without extra requirements (on top of those applying EU-wide) is the whole point of the single market in services.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

While technically true, the number of formal and informal barriers to a single market for retail financial services in the EU is vast. Passporting is mostly just useful for corporate/wholesale business.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How much influence does this guy have?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

He's a fairly high profile Tory backbencher and respected enough for his fellow Tories to have elected him as chair of the defence select committee.

He's not going to change government policy but the fact Tories like him will speak out on this is the sort of thing that will hopefully lower the bar to other sensible Tories starting to find their voices again. It's always easier putting your head above the parapet if someone else has done it first.

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