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[–] [email protected] 43 points 10 months ago (1 children)

“The decision of the antisemitic court in The Hague proves what was already known: This court does not seek justice, but rather the persecution of Jewish people. They were silent during the Holocaust and today they continue the hypocrisy and take it another step further,” he says.

The ICJ in its current iteration was founded in 1945.

The Israeli government is losing all of its credibility.

[–] filister 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Weren't the UN created after WWII exactly with the whole idea to create an international body that is to prevent the atrocities that occurred in WWII? The ICJ is part of the UN and was established at 16.06.1945.

And doesn't Israel exist because of the same agency, the UN, which they now call antisemitic, just because they dare criticize them?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

I mean, I will point out that the proto-Israeli terrorist group, Lehi, assassinated the top UN mediator, Folke Bernadotte, in 1948. Lehi was pardoned for their actions and glorified by the Israeli state, and their leader was Prime Minister of Israel from 1983 to 1992.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folke_Bernadotte

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lehi_(militant_group)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yitzhak_Shamir

The Israeli state historically has been very hostile to the UN.

[–] dlatch 43 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Israelis doing whatever they can to make the word "antisemitic" lose all of its value.

[–] agitatedpotato 18 points 10 months ago

At this point I can't take it at face value unless I know who's saying it. At least in this case I know it's coming from a genocidal waste of human life.

[–] Brokkr 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It already has lost its meaning. Semites are anyone who speak or spoke a semetic language. Arabic and Hebrew are both semetic languages. Palestinians and Israelis are both semites.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes, but the term antisemetic was coined by - well - antisemetic Germans who wanted a more scientifc term for "Jew hate" explicitly.

It doesn't matter that Arabs are semetic, the history of the term solely refers to hating Jews.

[–] ShroOmeric -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well sorry for you, the rest of the world DOES care about the meaning of words.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

???

You know, you're right. It doesn't matter how words are used, only the etymology matters.

That's why it's ok to refer to black people as negros. After all, "negro" is the Spanish word for "black", so "negros" just means "blacks". And the n-word is just an English version of negro after all.

[–] ShroOmeric -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That was exceptionally dumb.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What I am saying is:

The meaning of words is defined by how they're used. Antisemitic has never been used to refer to anything but hating Jews akin to how the n-word has been used as an insult instead of a neutral descriptor.

You cannot use the n-word as a neutral descriptor, nor can you use the term antisemitism to describe hatred of non-Jewish ethnicities.

[–] ShroOmeric 0 points 10 months ago

You just said that words are described by how people use them.

So I'll use that word like any other the way I prefer, and by doing that I'll shape its meaning.

See why it sounded dumb now?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

Not the Onion material

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

genocidist gets mad he's called a genocidist, confuses term used for hatred of a religious group with criticism of a government

one can be pro judaism (or at least neutral to it) and anti israel. someone needs to tell this clown israel≠judaism≠israel.

[–] ShroOmeric 5 points 10 months ago

That's what Nazis would say.

[–] Gazumi 4 points 10 months ago

Ben Gvir is simply calling for Nationalist Socialism, to protect the Fatherland, dehumanizing Palestinians to justify people following orders and annexing neighbors. Well, that definitely not at all like Nazi Germany at all then (bitter sarcasm).