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    submitted 9 months ago by atmur to c/linuxmemes
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    this image comes to mind every time i use man pages

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    [–] eager_eagle 40 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    man man

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    Is it just me or is man and --help kind of confusing to understand? Idk, I just have difficulty learning the commands that way.

    [–] anarchy79 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    Ha ha ha, no you are most certainly not alone, that's gotta be one of the most common gripes with new users. Those things were written in the 70s and have remained unchanged since. It's a standardization thing. :)

    [–] eager_eagle 4 points 9 months ago

    I find --help to be often useful, but man is hard to sell. As a tool to know more details of an option or to know everything that's available, it's great. As a first contact with the CLI tool or a quick lookup, man past the first paragraph is often a waste of time. For most lookups cheat.sh is much quicker.

    Though I've recently been using clipea with GPT-4, and it's by far the best experience. Fastest way to have straightforward one-liners that do pretty much what you asked for.

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    [–] [email protected] 33 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

    And then the manpage goes:

    ThE fUlL dOcUmEnTaTiOn CaN bE vIeWeD wItH "info blah invocation"

    Stop trying to make info a thing. It's not going to be a thing.

    [–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

    I used a tool yesterday whose manpage told me to look into --help for full list of commands. The audacity!

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    They could've just copy-pasted it! And --help should be a brief, easy-to-understand list of commands and explanations, not an extension

    [–] anarchy79 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    Some examples and common uses would be nice...

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

    Yeah. I recommend the TLDR terminal tool. You can contribute command TLDRs. If there is a one for said command, you can type tldr comad and it will give you some valid uses and example commands.

    [–] anarchy79 2 points 9 months ago

    I knew about tldr, I'm old Linuxoid now, but didn't know you could contribute. I'll give it another go. By this point though... I've already been through the hellfire.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    Especially when you don't have a US keyboard. How the fuck am I supposed to navigate through the info document when the key combination to follow links is Ctrl+] and ] itself is hidden behind some modifier combo?

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    Sounds like it needs better localization

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

    It needs to die in a fire. All hail man pages!

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

    That's basically just GNU programs

    [–] cashews_best_nut 21 points 9 months ago

    tldr

    [–] mayst0ne 14 points 9 months ago

    man date always makes me chuckle

    [–] honeyontoast 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    Man is too much for me. I can't handle that many words at once, which is why I like using tldr

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

    Using u and d instead of page up and down made it much more readable for me, then you don't have a whole page with every button press

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I first read this like "look, here is a image of a man" (-:

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    A miserable pile of secrets

    [–] VindianaJones 4 points 9 months ago

    Enough talk… Have at you!

    [–] anarchy79 2 points 9 months ago

    Ecce homo!

    [–] tdawg 8 points 9 months ago (1 children) 
    curl cheat.sh/curl
    [–] 65gmexl3 3 points 9 months ago

    this will be helpful, but looks like github repo is no longer being maintained

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

    Does this horse have a dog's tail?

    [–] Driveway4964 6 points 9 months ago

    Yes babe I am real man, do you want to go skateboardz?

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    I've never used it. Just typing /h -h --help and if that doesn't work then I'm Googling it.

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    [–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

    spaceballs? oh shit there goes the planet

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    Guts' theme plays

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    Back in the 90s

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

    I was in a very famous TV show...

    [–] Chickenstalker 4 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Man horse beach? Man steed sea? Man pony sand? What?

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    You didn't see the battery staple?

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

    That's correct

    [–] anarchy79 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    You can lead a horse to water...

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    But you can't make it RTFM?

    [–] anarchy79 4 points 9 months ago

    Neigh.

    [–] snek 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

    man is a command in linux to bring up the manuals/docs

    https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/man-command-in-linux-with-examples/

    If you're on a linux distro, you could type:

    man ls which would fetch you the manual for ls, which lists files and dirs for you. However, I think it's more common for users to use ls --help instead, which would show the same manual information.

    (sorry if you already knew this, but it looked almost like you were asking what this means and then a bunch of linux users just joked around without explaining anything XD)

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    [–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    You mean "history" right? Right?!

    [–] uranibaba 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    So many times I have looked up a command, used it and then forgotten the syntax. History is a life saver.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    You would probably love mcfly https://github.com/cantino/mcfly

    [–] uranibaba 2 points 9 months ago

    Just installed it! Love it, and I just learned that ctrl+r is a thing.

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    [–] ook_the_librarian 2 points 9 months ago

    Ctrl + R, what a wonderful phrase.

    [–] PanArab 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    Just don't use ChatGPT or Bing AI

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

    I will use Google Bard then

    [–] jaybone 3 points 9 months ago

    IT WAS EARTH ALL ALONG!!

    [–] JayObey711 3 points 9 months ago

    Why doesn't he call the avangers is he stupid?

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    It's one small step for man.
    One giant leap for a horse?

    Can horses type yet?

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