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Prime Minister Justin Trudeau heads to Nunavut for signing on transfer of powers (www.winnipegfreepress.com)

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[–] givesomefucks 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Any Canadians want to let me know if this is beneficial and Trudeau is doing better with Native people?

I know the last couple years there's been a bunch of criticism towards him. And my favorite Native Canadian rap group certainly aren't fans of his.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUG8oEuCl0E

Just curious if he's doing better these days.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Trudeau certainly says a lot of great things and makes nice promises, but his follow through is pretty hit and miss. He promised to implement the 94 actions recommended by the Truth and Reconciliation Commission, but then actively fought one of its recommendations in court: Paying out $23 billion in restitution to families impacted by discriminatory child welfare practices.

His government has reworked the legal frameworks for the interaction between First Nations and Canadian governments, but this report says it's a lot of changes leading to more or less the same outcome. First Nations are still not "independent" and Canadian governments can still intervene in decisions they make.

He has also greenlit a bunch of oil pipeline expansions through indigenous lands that not only upset indigenous peoples but also climate activists.

So yeah, he's a politician. He says a lot of great stuff about helping people and then does what every other politician does and focuses on the economy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

First nations cannot be entirely independent, some may be able to but most would not while being stuck in the current geographical situation. Unless they were given complete control over territory 10-100x or more than what they currently have, which absolutely will not happen for every first nation. It's a situation where there is no good solution that keeps everyone happy, and will likely remain this way until Canada collapses as a country.

Best we can hope for is clean water, healthcare, warm housing and food security.

[+] [email protected] -19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

He is so universally disliked in Canada, it's kind of wild he hasn't stepped down by now

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Nobody should be a fan of any politician. They are servants after all. But to say that he is universally disliked is more indicative of your own little bubble than it is of reality.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't think the comment you're replying to is particularly off-base. Coming from a centre-left perspective, this government has been essentially inactive on so many issues that are negatively impacting Canadians, whether it be housing (pre-emptive frig off to the inevitable comments parroting the "provincial responsibility pablum), grocery prices, etc. I don't know anyone who thinks this term has been a success, and at this point even a substantial chunk of the Liberal caucus is concerned about going into the election with Trudeau at the helm.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

For what it is worth - I didn't downvote that comment. I just find it funny when someone says something like 'universally disliked' and felt inclined to remind other readers that 'universally' is not as universal as @rab may think.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So do you personally know people who still support Trudeau?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yes. Of course.

You can find supporters for any politician. I mean... Someone keeps sending Pierre money. There is no end to political dumbfuckery.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Do you live in Ontario though?

I live in BC, I have friends all across the political spectrum. Most of my friends including myself voted him in in the first place. The only thing Trudeau cares about in BC is his Tofino vacation home and everyone knows it.

Pierre is only getting support because people are at the stage of "anyone but Trudeau", and he's sadly going to win because that's how angry voters are right now

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I know quite a few people in BC who are in the stage of "anyone but Poilievre", so they are technically still supporting Trudeau.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I would hardly consider that supporting, that's just voting as best you can in this broken system. Which Trudeau promised to fix and back pedalled

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I don't live in Ontario but I do go there for donairs every few weeks. ;)

I have lived in Quebec for the last two years. But I spent 20 years raising a family in AB and went to college in SK before moving there. My last non-quebec address was in Vernon BC. Every one of those places had supporters, nose-holding "the other ones are worse" voters, and haters, of all three major parties.

I'm not trying to say that everyone I know is in love with the guy. That would be weird and uncomfortable. But I disagree that he is universally disliked.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Maybe I should have mentioned his atrocious approval ratings, almost the lowest of any PM in history

But yeah as for my "little bubble" I literally don't know a single person who supports the guy, we are completely fed up with him. That said I live in western Canada. Eastern Canada will still vote for him, they are kinda fucked up over there though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Lol at "universally disliked" and "Eastern Canada will vote for him" I mean it's only 63% of the population, practically zero people.

Yes I know that not everyone in Eastern Canada will vote for him I'm just saying that you should be more consistent.

Even if only %34 percent of Eastern Canada voted for him that's still over %20 of the country.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah admittedly it's easy to forget about eastern Canada as someone who's only lived in BC and AB. It's a totally different world over there

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

It’s a totally different world over there

It really isn't.

A lot of isolationists in AB/SK and to an extent BC want you to believe that. But having lived in almost every province, a few states, and three euro countries... I can safely say that most of the world is just trying to get by without hurting each other. You are just as likely to get help boosting your car in Gatineau as you would in Calgary or Kelowna. We are all just people. Drawing lines in the sand is a game for politicians, the media, and the rich. Don't fall for it.