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These Make Hamas Great Again (MHGA) people are already WAY down the slope to committing violent terrorist attacks. They all need to be on watch lists.

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[–] shalafi 2 points 5 months ago

Yeah, great way to get people on your side.

So many protests I just don't get. All they usually accomplish is making the haters hate more and preaching to the choir for the rest.

It's takes a mass unrest to make the smallest dent. The George Floyd protests come to mind. Be interesting to see what actual changes came about, but awareness was cranked up to 11.

[–] Ep1cFac3pa1m -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Kinda looks like you can’t differentiate between protesting the slaughter of Palestinian civilians with advocating for terrorism. It’s a real shame you’ve let yourself be so completely manipulated.

[–] rivermonster 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I wondered who'd be fucking crazy enough to come support harassing a cancer center. You win!

[–] Ep1cFac3pa1m 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I wondered who’d be fucking brainwashed enough to ignore the made up Hamas bullshit. You win!

[–] rivermonster 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

What's made up? For actual news stories I work to use high-factuality media bias fact check (MBFC) sources. For non-news pieces, you will find biased sources, but that's because they have potential or actual significant value for researching. Take the Jewish LIbrary, for instance, which I linked for a list of terrorist attacks. I DO NOT use it as a direct source (I research any info I pull from there), it’s biased. But I’ve many times used it as a lead to research something. And FWIW, I’ve yet to find a false or seriously misleading incident in that list—I’d be very interested if you did and would like to know!

It's actually quite difficult to come up with a comprehensive list of Palestinian terrorist attacks. So even though it's biased, you can use it as a start and then verify the incident on high-factuality news sources, or archives, etc. I’d equate it to sources I use on the Nakba. I read and have researched claims about the Nakba—many are very biased and often nothing but allegations (read lacking sources). But they’re good starts. If you’ve never researched it, start with the Wikipedia as a jumping off point for your research (same thing, Wikipedia is a war-zone for the bias—so further research anything you find there): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba

For example, Deir Yassin, horrible shit happened here, serious WAR CRIMES by Palestinian Jews fighting to get Israel established and recognized. The crimes are grave enough that TO THIS DAY the IDF won’t release their files on Deir Yassin. A lot of the allegations we know about, though, I am inclined to believe, especially with so much time passing and Israel still refusing to release what they have on the crime. But, MY POINT, is that most are still allegations, still biased, but not something to dismiss. I believe a lot of the Palestinian Arab accounts of what the Palestinian Jews did.

Please let me know if what you mean is "I live in a bubble of Hamas propaganda, alt-left echo chamber, and these facts and sources that I intentionally shield myself from don't conform to a false narrative I've been following as I become indoctrinated and more radical." Because if that's the case, then you DEFINITELY SHOULD read these stories.

Don't automatically believe them. Research them and then come back with alternate sources, prove they're bullshit--OR, and holy fuck it's crazy to suggest, pierce through your MHGA brainwashed haze that you see the world through and find out how dangerously down the line you are in aligning yourself with terrorists.

I’ll close with, please don’t become a terrorist. Right now you’re clearly on that path. You might be far from committing an act, but you’re well into indoctrination so that you can’t even view dissenting voices and sources without getting enraged and emotionally lashing out. That’s a super bad red flag.

[–] Ep1cFac3pa1m 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Imagine taking the time to write that wall of text instead of just admitting, “I tried to tie the protesters to Hamas despite the lack of any evidence of connection within the article I posted.”

You seem to conflate any criticism of Israeli actions with support for Hamas. I’ll close with please learn to see the world beyond black and white dichotomy and introduce some nuance into your understanding of events.

[–] rivermonster 0 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I tried to help you. I still hope you reject terrorism as you slide down your slope.

[–] Ep1cFac3pa1m 0 points 5 months ago