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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Country founded on genocide does not support prosecution of genocide"

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's really one thing for people in pre-modern times, especially pre WW2, to have engaged in what are now widely recognized as crimes against humanity.

It's even worse when genocide is allowed today with the benefit of historical study.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

There are people in pre-modern times that saw the horror of what was happening and did their best to fight against it. There were ex-settlers that chose to join the Native side of the struggle because they knew settlement and genocide was wrong, even if they didn't really have the language for it yet. Hitler was inspired by the pre-WW2 actions in the Americas against the Native population.

Though I won't argue that people today have even more benefit of hindsight - especially because we can see it happen live on the internet!

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have never felt more ashamed to be Canadian. In 2016, Canada had 220 thousand Lebanese-Canadians and 50 thousand Palestinian-Canadians. It feels like the complete alienation of the Arab community.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

And 282 thousand Jews as of 2021. 🤔

He's gotta dance on that tight rope. And if he loses balance, pipsqueak takes over and I'm sure you know how he feels about this issue.

[–] m13 10 points 1 year ago

There are plenty of anti-Zionist Jews who are opposed to the genocide and Israel.

[–] ClopClopMcFuckwad -3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

How many Jews does Canada have, because if its more than 50,220, then I guess we know why Canada doesn't want to agree with the genocide claim.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

Please don't conflate Jews with Zionism.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Are you implying that all Jews homogeneously support Netanyahu and the rabid zionists backing him?

That sounds quite anti-Semitic.

[–] ClopClopMcFuckwad 12 points 1 year ago

Nope, not at all. I'm implying that which ever base has more potential votes for current politicians is how the government will react to world events.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It's not the case, but it's very much how world governments are seeing it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Canada has been trying to expand Arab and Iranian immigration. There are currently also 200 thousand Iranian Canadians in the country.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I feel like people in these comments didn't read the article or listen to the direct statements. Its a super political non-committal statement. If you wanted him to make a commitment about it being genocide, sure, I'd have been happy with what Singh was pushing for, a strong stance of siding with whatever the ICJ decided. But lets be clear, this isn't a statement that whats going on isn't genocide. And, frankly, whether it is genocide or not is murky. I lean towards yes, but I'm not any sort of domain expert. The ethnic cleansing and apartheid arguments are much stronger.