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[DISCUSSION] Secret Invasion S01E03 - Betrayed (self.marvelstudios)
submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by canthidium to c/marvelstudios
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Fury uncovers a rebel Skrull plot.

EPISODE RELEASE DATE RUNTIME CREDITS SCENE?
S01E03: Betrayed July 5th, 2023 on Disney+ 44min None
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[–] Laxaria 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The one on one exchanges continue to be a highlight of the show, between Talos and Gracvik as well as Talos and Fury.

This particular episode felt very episodic in nature (one singular episodic antagonist meant to advance the overarching plot further) alongside the typical cliffhanger moment.

The reference to another knife in hand moment in a different blockbuster action film was only made less squick by how much less time was spent on it.

By and large its probable the series, like so many others, will bulldoze headlong into a conclusion that will feel a bit rushed if we're getting breather episodes that are intended to be a microcosm of the series' plot as a whole, but don't really advance much other than more slices of brilliant character interaction. Which is great and all, but perhaps there's a lingering sense of "why should I care" echoing through the story.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I liked the moments between Talos and Fury in the trip to Fairbank's home as well as the tension when they were interrogating Fairbank's.

[–] Huxleywaswrite 4 points 2 years ago

I've been enjoying seeing those two together. They've obviously been friends for a very long time, and it's been cool to see how they're relationship has happened behind the scenes. We obviously knew fury had a good network of spies, this just adds a new understanding to how he knew all of everyone's secrets and rose to power.

[–] lumilite 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

was Gravik using extremis at the end of the cafe scene?

[–] Huxleywaswrite 7 points 2 years ago

Yeah he was

[–] thisisdee 3 points 2 years ago

Wow I must have missed that. Need to rewatch...

[–] paddirn 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The episode just felt so painful to watch, just things happening without meaning, purely to advance the plot and get it from point A to point B. I just find myself not caring about any of it. The conversations and the dialogue all feel forced, like it’s all meant to induce suspicion and make us question peoples’ motives, but there’s not been any buildup in tension for any of it, so none of it matters.

Also, Nick Fury is apparently the most hated person in the MCU, everybody that knows him, hates his guts.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I really don't get why they turned Nick Fury into an insufferable asshole hated by everyone

[–] paddirn 2 points 2 years ago

It’s Disney just trashing their own property, they’re apparently incapable of shitting all over themselves the longer they manage a franchise (see Star Wars). And what’s dumb is he’s not even the one that should get blamed for anything! It was literally all on Capt Marvel to find a planet for the Skrulls, she spent 20–30 years putzing around doing who-knows-what, the best Fury could do was to try to keep a lid on things at home. He had no choice in the matter, it’s not like he had a spaceship to go look himself.

And I feel like they’ve really left a big question mark with whatever he was doing in space, that’s just dangling out there getting ignored. I’ll be even more severely disappointed if they don’t answer that with this series.

[–] byrona 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Can't tell if giah is really stupid or it's just bad writing :/

[–] InvaderDJ 7 points 2 years ago

Giah and Talos both. Giah for trying to escape in the stupidest way possible and doing a terrible job of covering her tracks. Talos for falling for the most stereotypical spy tactic with the whole phone swap thing.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Everyone is a terrible spy in this spy thriller

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Feels like a giant plot hole with “Bob” trading Talos for the kid?? Not sure why he cared, sure he’s innocent but I have a plane to blowup. Just felt weird.

[–] InvaderDJ 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It is weird. The Skrulls under Gravik are trying to kick off WW3 to kill all humans and take over the planet. Why would he care about the child of the human he's impersonating?

[–] Bambadjon 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I assumed the kid was probably a Skrull too, potentially his kid. It's a jump to make without any evidence though.

[–] InvaderDJ 1 points 2 years ago

It would make more sense for the kid to be a Skrull. Deep cover missions would probably work best if the whole family was replaced. Just seems weird that if that was the case, they wouldn’t have the kid transform back into their true form too.

[–] DoctorTYVM 2 points 2 years ago

Yeah, it seemed like he cared about the kid. Maybe it's because part of the new skrull mind cloning thing makes you feel like the person you're mimicking?

[–] Bambadjon 3 points 2 years ago

If War Machine is a Skrull, and there are potentially multiple Super Skrulls being made, is this whole thing going to end in a Superhero fight? If so, who would fight for the good guys? I would assume Monica or Carol but they're both tied up with the Marvels.