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UFC Fighter Sean Strickland calls Philippines "The most fucked up place I've ever seen" on his one visit (lemmy.world)

submitted 10 months ago by decadentrebel to c/philippines

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

My issue with tweets like this is that while the vast majority thinks "that's fucked up" then go about their lives, some will think "philipines you say?"

[–] decadentrebel 1 points 10 months ago

That's 10% of my concern. The prostitution is messed up, but it's present in a lot of other countries and even developed ones. Surely he's seen some parts of the Philippines that makes it not completely fucked up.

But I don't hold any ill will towards him if that's his takeaway.

[–] Hanrahan 1 points 8 months ago

Maybe I'm naive but I've visited a couple times over the years and never seen this. My guess, you need to look hard, it's not like you walk through Green belt and there's kids holding signs ffs.

[+] decadentrebel -64 points 10 months ago (2 children)

As always, the self-loathing Filipinos found a kindred spirit to add more fuel to their bright masochistic fire. LMAO.

Yes, teenage prostitution is horrible, but ever wonder why it's a thing? Even in first world countries like Japan and Sweden, it happens. Those who do it are of the common denominator: they are in the poverty line. Worse, they were kidnapped and forced into it, but that doesn't apply to the PH. On most cases, it's a deliberate decision.

So, instead of blaming the parents who are doing it to survive (no, they can't prostitute themselves - there's little market for them) or the Caucasians coming here in droves, blame the authorities that turn a blind eye on this open secret instead of arresting people. Blame the LGUs that keep their community starving and illiterate. Blame the government for failing to take care of its poor and continue to show little interest in ever doing it.

Blame yourself for tweeting about how fucked up this situation is without elevating the leve of discourse beyond just saying how fucked up it is. You lack self-awareness and just pounding your chest on how privileged you are.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Blame yourself for tweeting about how fucked up this situation is without elevating the leve of discourse beyond just saying how fucked up it is.

You’re basically saying that no one should ever point out injustice unless they’re actively fixing it. Which is an unnecessarily high burden on anyone wishing to express experiences of injustice. If the only people allowed to share their experiences of injustice are those actively fighting it, you won’t get more fighters, you’ll just get less reports of injustice.

I don’t care that he didn’t “elevate the level of discourse”. Dude’s a UFC fighter. No one is waiting on his hot take on how to fix poverty induced prostitution. It’s sufficient that he shared his experience. Other, more informed, people can piggyback on this observation and provide context and solutions.

Like how you did.

[–] decadentrebel 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

This is on me for tucking in Strickland's tweet at the end and mixing it up with what 90% of my rant was about - that of Filipinos using a Caucasian's post to self-rage again without "elevating the level of discourse".

I'm not mad at Strickland or his point. I understand that even if he's only been to the country once and that it was a first impression, he's still entitled to that.

This is purely my frustration at my countrymen for the same old repetitive talking points that are all linked together and whine about the symptom rather than the cause.

Edit: It's hard to see my point from an outsider view unless you hang out on our sub a lot or a Filipino. To most people who just wandered into this post from Lemmy's rec, it'll just come off as a lunatic complaining about slacktivism.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Fair point. I actually am a rando who wandered in and replied to a small part of your comment. Specifically the part that’s not about Filipinos. :p

Stay critical. :)

[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago

All this drivel just to reveal you missed the point