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Objectives of Israel’s and Russia’s Wars ‘nearly Identical’ - Did Lavrov Shift Position on Gaza? (www.palestinechronicle.com)

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In a strange shift, Russia’s Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov was quoted as saying that Israel’s war on Gaza is identical to Moscow’s military operation against Ukraine.

The comments, attributed to Russia’s top diplomat, were cited by Russia Today in an interview on Thursday with RIA Novosti.

“The goals declared by Israel for its ongoing operation against Hamas militants in Gaza seem nearly identical to those put forward by Moscow in its campaign against the Ukrainian government,” RT quoted Lavrov as saying.

According to the Palestinian Ministry of Health, 21,320 Palestinians have been killed, and 55,603 wounded in Israel’s ongoing genocide in Gaza starting on October 7.

Palestinian and international estimates say that the majority of those killed and wounded are women and children.

Many international law experts have accused Israel of carrying out a genocide in the besieged Gaza Strip.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

If there’s one thing the Ukraine War should have taught everyone, it’s that you can never expect ideological consistency from Russia’s government or Russian propaganda. Russia’s foreign policy is purely transactional.

[+] [email protected] -2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Every foreign policy has inconsistencies, but Russia’s are virtually unending. Also, let’s not devolve into whataboutism.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Russia has in the past two years

Claimed Ukrainians are really Russians, and Ukraine has no legitimacy as a nation.
Claimed Russia is simply trying to remove Nazis from Ukraine.
Claimed they are trying to save Russian speakers in Ukraine, despite the fact those same Russian speakers have suffered and died just the same as any other Ukrainians.
Repeatedly bombed and terrorised Ukrainian civilians, including those Russian speakers.
Claimed they are at war with NATO, but also made it illegal to call the Ukraine War a “war”.
Despite being “at war with NATO”, they’ve moved forces away from the Finnish border to reinforce their units in Ukraine. Is (NATO member) Finland a threat or not?
Annexed four Ukrainian oblasts, despite not even occupying them entirely.
Said the west shouldn’t interfere in Russian affairs on the grounds of national sovereignty, despite invading their sovereign neighbour.

I could keep going, but you get the picture. It’s true that other governments have inconsistent policies, and I have agreed with that. But the sheer scale of Russian disinformation, distraction and destruction are far beyond those of other governments. And playing the “what about” card is nothing but a tactic of derailing the conversation; it adds nothing, just making the discourse confused and meaningless. We aren’t talking about “other countries”, we’re talking about Russia.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 9 months ago

Some push an actual ideology, but yeah, nationalistic self-interest is pretty common around the world.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Same objectives, speedrunning warcrimes and every form of genocide.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

If what he is saying is that Russia wants the land known as Ukraine and Israel wants the land known as Gaza; I agree, Russia and Israel have similar goals.

[–] Doorbook 12 points 9 months ago

Two weeks now and the numbers of reported Palestinians death in these news articles is 21000.. along with injuries and lack of water, shelter, food, and many diseases.

[–] BenLeMan 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

About what, genocide? You might be onto something there, Sergey.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

You know you're doing something wrong when you're doing the same thing as the Russians (I mean also when you're doing genocide, but apparently that's too little nuance nowadays).