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“We’re gonna end it on day one … the whole thing is crazy,” Trump said on a Philadelphia talk show.

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[–] enbyecho 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You can be angry about not getting everything under Obama. I'm angry at him for being a neocon and blowing smoke about things he should have known he couldn't deliver.

But as always, there is a lot of context missing from your over-simplified depiction of Obama at Flint. There's a more nuanced discussion over at Vox. Your "private jet" thing is funny. Did you expect a sitting president to fly economy?

You can also be supportive of "less bad" choices such as Biden. You don't have to accept it all or think of it as a binary choice. That would be more akin to refusing to eat dinner because you didn't get the cookie you were promised first.

[–] Woozythebear -5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

People like you are we never get any change in this country

[–] enbyecho 1 points 6 months ago

People like you are we never get any change in this country

LOL. We've had a lot of change. Perhaps your lifetime is too short for you to see that. From my perspective, the change is radical and for the better. It's a long way from what I'd like our country to be, but I'm a socialist and anti-capitalist. I know perfectly well that we will never be everything I hope for and that the plutocracy and the capitalist exploitation we see every day will not be over-thrown overnight... indeed, not in my life time, no matter how much protesting we do. The only way that will ever happen is slow systemic change from the ground level up.

There are 333 million people in the USA and probably as many opinions about what our politics should be. We as a nation disagree constantly over issues big and small and it's the nature of democracy that we compromise, sometimes to the point that nobody gets all of what they want but everyone, hopefully, gets some of what they want. The only thing we can do short of a dictatorship of the proletariat, is to work for the incremental gains toward a more progressive democracy, just has we have been doing for decades. I realize it may not look like it but we've made so much progress.