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As the City of Ottawa looks to take over responsibility for parking ticket disputes next year, one councillor wants to look at a sliding scale of penalties that would give low-income drivers a break.

Capital ward Coun. Shawn Menard is asking city staff to examine options, like gearing fines to the driver's income or the value of their vehicle.

"The person that drives the Ferrari and parks at Lansdowne, they may be much more able to afford a parking ticket or may even take that on just knowing they might get a parking ticket there, than someone who's going to a protest for basic income," he said.

"We've had people in our office very upset and crying about going to a basic income protest and getting a ticket there. Their ability to pay was much less than that person in the Ferrari."

He made the proposal just after council's finance and corporate services committee voted in favour of a new penalty system that would take parking ticket challenges out of the courts.

City staff said the current system is "jammed up," and replacing justices of the peace with council-appointed adjudicators will mean faster disputes for residents. Menard also saw it as a chance to experiment.

He said the sliding-scale model is already used for speeding infractions in Finland. While basing fines on income could require co-operation with federal bodies, like the Canada Revenue Agency, Menard thinks there might be alternatives.

"There's other proxies, the blue book values of vehicles for example, that could be looked into," he said. "That's why we're asking staff to explore the options."

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[โ€“] lemmefixdat4u 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

We've gotten pretty good at figuring out how much an hour of a person's time is worth. Fines should be based in hours. You can pay based on what an hour of your time is worth, or you can do community service for the number of hours adjudicated. That's fair.

[โ€“] venoft 3 points 6 months ago

The problem of course with these kind of schemes is illegal income. Plenty of people who drive expensive bmw's while having only a basic income on paper.

Maybe they do both, and then choose whichever is higher (car-based or income-based fine).