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The bear vs man trend is digging up some tiresome and stressful thoughts (self.vent)

submitted 6 months ago by Voran to c/vent

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Firstly: I'm reasonably sure these women are just kvetching. I often say 'I'd rather drink piss' to express that I don't like something. Obviously I'm not actually going to drink piss.

Secondly...I do agree it's a bit much to compare men to a deadly 1200 pound predator. I would be a bit fed up of hearing that too if I were a guy.

Thirdly...that said...I understand WHY women say that even if it's a bit ridiculous. I've had a male friend completely turn on a dime and send me rape threats while drunk. I pleaded and tried to reason with him for about 20 minutes before I completely snapped and threatened to do things to him with a hunting knife that I won't detail because there's no need to make people vomit. Only then did he back off and switch to making excuses and blaming his autism. It was terrifying because there was no reasoning with him. He LIKED that I was frightened and freaked out. It gave him a pleasurable power rush. The only reason he backed off was the threat of said hunting knife.

A bear isn't malicious. A bear just wants to eat. A bear can be redirected or avoided. You can do things such as wear a bell or carry mace or put up an electric fence around a tent. A man isn't necessarily malicious but IF he is...those precautions won't do jack poopsies because he consciously knows the woman doesn't want it and LIKES the act of stomping on boundaries.

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[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

And I've countlessly agreed that it is a problem and that any man has the right to feel upset and/or scared about it. Including and especially him. I just don't think that's a good basis for saying women are inherently sexist if they are wary of being alone with a random man. His logic is based that since he feels the need to "work on getting over it" (his words), women should get over it in regards to men. It's a false equivalency.

Without question the legal framework in a lot of countries is out of date and toxic masculinity traits that makes men uncomfortable with seeking help after assaults needs to be addressed. But that's a very different situation from the reason women feel unsafe around men, a NOT AT ALL HIDDEN epidemic.

[–] Voran 2 points 6 months ago

Yea that much I agree with. I'm not going to 'work on overcoming' wariness of someone who is not only bigger and stronger than me but also more durable and faster and more coordinated and has a faster reaction time and even produces more adrenaline than I do.