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That's interesting. So what would the appropriate response for Meta be when they are officially served a warrant?
It shouldn't be possible for Meta to hand over the data. There should be a wall of privacy between Meta and its users private messages. The company I work for doesn't even have access to customer accounts without the customer's permission.
I appreciate you actually answering the question instead of just being a fucking douche
Hey, this isn't Reddit. I don't want it to be. It was a fine question.
Technically, unless that data is encrypted with only the end user having access to the key or is being held/mediated by a third party, they do have access. It's only company policy that's preventing access, and a court can shred that policy with a court order on a case by case basis. Same goes for the third party. The end user has to be the only one with the key.
Have I got news for you:
https://about.fb.com/news/2023/01/expanding-features-for-end-to-end-encryption-on-messenger/
It's late, they should've implemented it back when they took WhatsApp, but it's something. Meta definitely does not want to work with local law enforcement, bad for business.
It's because Signal is end to end encrypted. Same is true for WhatsApp and that's a Meta product, they can't hand over messages even if they wanted to.
Messenger is adding E2EE as well.
About that data I'm not sure, but I'd immediately stop collecting it.
They would need to remove a lot of features for that to work.