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I see it referenced constantly here, not quite as much on Reddit. I know what it means, but just wondering why such the popularity over on this side of the fence?

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 5 months ago (3 children)

It lets ppl describe late capitalism without using those words or even knowing that’s what they’re describing.

Were stuck Don’t Look Up style in a cycle of trying to find a way to explain and enumerate the things happening around us without pointing to their precursors even when we remember them from our own lives and experiences.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

This is the correct answer. These "things are getting worse" terms are on the right track, but they don't describe why things are getting worse.

Class-based systems like feudalism and capitalism have overarching rising and falling phases, and in the late phases, exploitation of our labor increases drastically as the ruling classes fight over a declining surplus. This has rippling effects to every other aspect of society, from how hard we're forced to work, to the degradation of media, art, politics, etc.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

You also made me think of this relevant quote by Lenin:

People always have been the foolish victims of deception and self-deception in politics, and they always will be, until they have learnt to seek out the interests of some class or other behind all moral, religious, political and social phrases, declarations and promises.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Exactly this. It is not new, it's just a form of rent seeking.