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Americans Are Open To Cheap Chinese Cars. That’s 'Scary' For The Rest Of The Auto Industry

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[–] chemical_cutthroat 76 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Don't cram touchscreens and smart features into every fucking aspect of your car. Keep your costs low, keep prices low, and believe it or not, you'll tap into the "bottom" 60% of the market that has been forced to buy used for the last 10 years. I don't want a base trim 10 year old Honda Accord with 150k miles, but it's all I can find for under $20k.

[–] themeatbridge 36 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Touchscreens and "smart" features don't add enough cost to justify the premium you pay for them.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This. Removing the $200 Android tablet from the dash isn't going to make cars suddenly $5,000 cheaper.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

but they love charging 5k for it though.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I keep getting shit on for wanting an EV with manual roll-up windows where you have to use your hands, a super basic FM stereo kit, and a dash clock being the most advanced shit inside. I don't need rear-view cameras and sensors and other shit that complicates and increases repair and insurance costs. I don't get it. Give me dead simple, please and thank you.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Back up cameras are mandatory in the US, and apparently Automatic Emergency Braking will be mandatory starting in 2029, so you'll be stuck with some sensors whether you like it or not.

But otherwise I agree that buttons and dials are better for controlling AC and radio than a touchscreen ever will be.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

Yeesh. I'm still driving a vehicle from 1999. Guess I'm out of the loop on the backup camera thing.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Backup cameras are useless for many people. I can either wear glasses so that I can see where I’m driving, or I can take them off to see the fisheyed backup screen. Not both.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

Backup cameras are pretty good imo because they let you see the small things you wouldn't be able to see out of a mirror. Helps prevent needless accidents. If you don't wanna use it, just don't look at it. Most cars should still have rear view mirrors

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

the backup camera is useful when the rear window is obstructed (such as from mud/dust) and for comically large vehicles where a short pole wouldn't be visible if it was less than 3ft behind it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Good thing glasses are permanently superglued to your face and thus it’s impossible to swap between having them on and off when swapping between going backwards and forwards…

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

That's not a reasonable thing to expect to have to do while driving. Sounds like the "you're holding it wrong" of cars

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Except for those of us who, you know, like to see where we're going rather than relying on a limited FOV camera. Of course, if I could learn to remove and replace them while keeping both hands engaged in actually, you know, steering the damn car, that'd be great.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I better have both hands on the wheel for all those times I’m mid turn and shift while still moving into reverse……

It’s… for when you’re backing up. You’ve come to a complete stop. You’re going to stop before you start moving forward again. It’s not hard to tilt glasses onto the top of your head while you stop or flip them back down when you stop.

A MUCH bigger issue would be the rear view mirrors which are just cameras and screens.

Are you mixing the two up?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

Touch screens in cars are a massive safety issue. I'm not saying they don't have some benefits but the fact that many newer cars have basically no physical buttons to perform basic functions is a problem. I can feel for the dial to adjust the volume or change the radio station. But a touch screen encourages the driver to take their focus off the road. That's a serious problem.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Wut? I bought a brand new car for €11k three years ago. Right enough the same car is 15k now but still