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Systemd wants to expand to include a sudo replacement (outpost.fosspost.org)

submitted 10 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] voracread 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Is journald still binary? That alone made me turn away. I am using PCLinuxOS hence am systemd free. Stopped reading up on it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Is journald still binary? That alone made me turn away.

Yes, unreadable with a text editor. Meaning that if you have a computer problem and journald or systemd is broken you have can't consult the log files, unless you did install rsyslog or sometimes before that. Meanwhile by default journald will eat a few GBs of disk space soon.

[–] voracread 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Compared to this what is the advantage of binary form? I thought log files being text was a no brainer.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Storage efficiency, faster queries, more metadata, unified format, etc. If your host breaks, you can download the journals and open then elsewhere. Also, there is nothing stopping you from configuring it to output to a file.

[–] voracread 2 points 10 months ago

Open them elsewhere is also true for text files I guess.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"on nooo i'm gonna stop using what make modern linux OS good just because they save logs in binary, istead of binary w ith .txt 😭😭" go ahead them, make your life worse

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

“on nooo i’m gonna stop using what make modern linux OS good just because they save logs in binary, istead of binary w ith .txt 😭😭” go ahead them, make your life worse

😒

One can keep on using systemd and complain about journald and install rsyslogd and then you'd have the journalctl -f command to impress your Linux noob friends ;-) and /var/log/syslog when there's trouble when journald would be dead.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

if you can't access journald you have a bigger problem than crying about it's binary file format, but ok keep needing to parse every fucking log using grep and taking 30 second to find anything meaningful if you hate yourself that much