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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well by the same token there’s generally a lot of recency bias in online film conversations. All of the films I have seen on the list fit. Art forms can degrade or at least not progress enough to contribute to the “canon”.

What would you add from recent film?

From mainstream cinema the matrix and the dark night come to mind quickly.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Nice lists ... thanks!! Tree of life as No 1 in the rogerebert.com list was surprising (for me).

[–] satan 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I agree on Matrix and Dark Knight, which could be considered in the same category as Star Wars, which actually is one of the more recent films on the list.

Of the top of my head, I would add

  • Heat (1995)
  • Mad Max: Fury Road (2015)
  • No County for Old Men (2007)
  • Pulp Fiction (1994)
  • Memento (2000)
  • Children of Men (2006)
  • The Lighthouse (2019)
  • Hereditary (2018)

Frankly, the Lego Batman movie is better than Citizen Kane. There are so many good movies to choose from, I have no idea why this one gets so much recognition to this day.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Pulp fiction was on the list. Which I think answers the point about citizen Kane, which is that the greatness of a film, like a basketball player I suppose, is a lot about their significance in their time. Though you could make a different list without that as a factor.

I like what Tarantino does, which is list best films by decade or within some time window.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

…the Lego Batman movie is better than Citizen Kane.

Wow. That has got to be the most punk rock thing I've read in a while! My sincerest compliments! 🙇 I'm almost envious I hadn't said it first!

…I have no idea why this one gets so much recognition to this day.

Judging by the list that preceeds your audacious statement, that while I don't necessarily agree with all of your choices, it appears you're a person of a certain sensibility regarding film. With that, I say confidently, don't worry. One day you will understand why Orson Welles' Citizen Kane is considered seminal cinema.

BTW, I thought The Lego Batman Movie was cute. AFI 100 Greatest American Films material, no. Cheers!

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

@satan @maegul Lego Batman is a funny movie. Citizen Kane is a masterpiece. Threre's a great difference.