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Framework won’t be just a laptop company anymore (www.theverge.com)

submitted 7 months ago by [email protected] to c/technology

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It started with notebooks, but that wasn’t the master plan.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Just replace my perfectly good $200 headphones that work in my (old) phone, my Switch, my 3DS, my laptop, my iPod, and my work phone.

It's so simple!

Seriously, even if you don't use it, why are you so against others having the choice? The headphone *jack was the standard for decades for a reason. If my phone is low on power, I'd like to be able to charge it without disconnecting my music/podcasts...

[–] [email protected] -2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

But like, 3.5 to usbc is a 10 buck conversion. Tbh i see merit in double usb c over usbc and headphone jack, might be more doable too, the DAC prolly takes more space than an additional usbc

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

A dongle is a workaround. The headphone jack just works.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

I hear you, but a usb-c has more uses than one, the only real problem with a dongle is now is that occasionally you need to charge.

[–] woelkchen 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

A dongle is a workaround. The headphone jack just works.

Framework also uses a USB-C adapter. It costs 20 Euro: https://frame.work/products/audio-expansion-card

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's great! But Framework also includes an audio jack built-in. As should everyone.

[–] woelkchen 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

But Framework also includes an audio jack built-in.

Nope, the new 16 inch does not. The older 13 does.

[–] foggenbooty 2 points 7 months ago

What?! That's ridiculous. Hotswap ports are great for high throughput devices requiring PCIe lanes, but taking the audio port out gains you literally nothing. There should be some standard ports + hotswappable ports.

I also wish they could find a way to redesign the Ethernet port with a hinged jaw or something so it isn't so massive, I wouldn't want to leave that plugged in.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Oh, the 13. That's what I was looking at.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago

A dongle is a solution to the problem "I want to use my headphones with a device with only a USB-C port."

[–] iopq -2 points 7 months ago

It's not a work-around, a headphone requires a DAC and an amp. In fact, my phone has a crap DAC causing artifacts in the sound. It's actually not to my benefit to have the jack because I'd get better sound with the external DAC which is transparent.

So the jack works, but the DAC you get can be whatever the manufacturer considers good enough.

DACs I can hear issues in:

My phone, my tablet, my desktop PC

DACs that are transparent to me:

My laptop, my $12 external DAC